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UK to depart from GDPR

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Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#41

I honestly get giggles from how unprepared they are culturally for what becoming America-like will do to them. Does anyone else? American-like but with no negotiating leverage and having burned all the bridges to the other economic unions.

48% of us realized this

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#42

To 99% of internet users, GDPR has meant nothing except extra popups, blocked access to some websites, and an additional regulatory burden. In some cases bad actors exploited GDPR for fraudulent purposes - eg. requesting a full account deletion in the event of a ban. They can then recreate the same account with the same data.

That like claiming "For 99% of consumers food safety regulations means nothing but annoying 'use by date'!"

Just because the effects are not obvious to a layman, doesnt they aren't there

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#43
post #2

> new information commissioner to focus not just on privacy but on the use of data for ‘economic and social goals’. Congratulations Britons, your data's back on sale.

I wonder if we will now see a situation where British companies will be forced to move their cloud out of GB, to i.e. Ireland if they want to do business with the rest of Europe ? The thing is, even though the GB decides to ditch GDPR, they're still bound by it if they want to do business with the rest of Europe, just like the US is bound by it.

Sure, but the large number of businesses who are UK only won't have to deal with it.

Instead of frontloading compliance for any new venture, they can build for the UK first then work on compliance if and when they go for EU business.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#44
post #28

For me the biggest flaw of GDPR that it does not distinguish between something done as a business to make money and something done non-profit, as a hobby project, etc. GDPR killed forums, etc. everything moved to Facebook groups, where people agree to whatever Facebook wants. Who will create forum for a community if one has to deal with all the bureaucracy, "right to be forgotten", data accuracy checks, data export r…

I'm not sure why it should do that. Data is data.

In the end though, you don't have to go crazy about it, because there is zero chance of enforcement over small pebbles.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#45
post #2

> new information commissioner to focus not just on privacy but on the use of data for ‘economic and social goals’. Congratulations Britons, your data's back on sale.

I wonder if we will now see a situation where British companies will be forced to move their cloud out of GB, to i.e. Ireland if they want to do business with the rest of Europe ? The thing is, even though the GB decides to ditch GDPR, they're still bound by it if they want to do business with the rest of Europe, just like the US is bound by it.

With the difference that companies can now move Britons into the cohort of users whose data you can sell and do things with you probably didn't quite consent to in any meaningful way. And as Europeans we will probably get a couple more websites that will just tell us to sod off (in proper British English parlance now) because of our data protection laws. You know, the kind of message that already pops up when you search for some recipe and end up on an American website with good SEO or some topic featured on a local news outlet in the US.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#46
post #6

YIPPEE. Does this mean no more of those stupid little popups every time I see a site? HOORAY. Does it mean less absurd bureaucracy and non-jobs? GREAT. As for data privacy... does anyone seriously think that Facebook was stopped from collecting data due to GDPR?

Facebook and google takeout only exist because of gdpr. Right to delete (not just deactivate) your account only exists due to gdpr. Right to opt out at all only exists because of gdpr, and many companies do actually stick to it. That many don't follow the spirit of the regulation is not really the fault of the regulation. Thing is its not been tested much in the courts yet, but the cases have really started last year…

> google takeout only exist because of gdpr.

I doubt that since takeout precedes gdpr by several years.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#48

I hope the UK follows through with its 'Singapore-on-Thames' plan, which requiring losing regulatory harmonization with the EU: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore-on-Thames

Let’s be honest, it’s not up to the UK alone. The EU still has strong world influence and they will try to stop it at any cost.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you work in enterprise it absolutely has made a big difference.

I work in an large euroepan enterprise and our GDPR compliance is... absymal. And we're not even investing that much into becoming more compliant. My impression is that the board is in a state of denial, as doing GDPR properly would probably cost us billions.

Please tell us the name of that European enterprise that breaches the GDPR and we can put the EU enforcement procedures to a test :) Let's call it an experiment..

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#50
post #2

> new information commissioner to focus not just on privacy but on the use of data for ‘economic and social goals’. Congratulations Britons, your data's back on sale.

I wonder if we will now see a situation where British companies will be forced to move their cloud out of GB, to i.e. Ireland if they want to do business with the rest of Europe ? The thing is, even though the GB decides to ditch GDPR, they're still bound by it if they want to do business with the rest of Europe, just like the US is bound by it.

We are counting on this. Actually investments in Sweden for data centers has rissen more than 20-40 percent at the normal rate.

I know that some purchases of cloud services are halted for now to be sure about this. Data movement is going to be increasingly an important matter. It should have been from the begining but here we are.

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