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UK to depart from GDPR

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Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by ThePhysicist »

piokoch wrote: post #28

For me the biggest flaw of GDPR that it does not distinguish between something done as a business to make money and something done non-profit, as a hobby project, etc. GDPR killed forums, etc. everything moved to Facebook groups, where people agree to whatever Facebook wants. Who will create forum for a community if one has to deal with all the bureaucracy, "right to be forgotten", data accuracy checks, data export r…

The GDPR only regulates automated data processing and manual data processing where a "filing system" is used, so you kindergarten doesn't "process" children's data just because they write the children's names on their coats... In general I think you're exaggerating a lot of the problems, many forums are still alive and kicking and most forum software has been updated to accommodate the requirements of the GDPR (which aren't very difficult to implement in any case).

The centralization of the web on very few commercial platform has many reasons, data protection is probably the least important and might even be a counter-force in my experience.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by sverhagen »

boomskats wrote: post #40
vmception wrote: post #9

I honestly get giggles from how unprepared they are culturally for what becoming America-like will do to them. Does anyone else? American-like but with no negotiating leverage and having burned all the bridges to the other economic unions.

It's unclear whether the 'they' you refer to are the British people, or the class of ruling individuals who know exactly what they're doing and are set to profit immensely. (I'm aware that all sounds quite America-like already)

I have no doubt you're right, but I'm just not familiar with the specific details. What are some real ways they stand to "profit immensely"?

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by renewiltord »

Hmm, this would be good for business if it had never been an issue. It looks like the plan is for this to just be a divergent set of regulations which is not particularly of any general utility.

Maybe if they harmonize along CCPA or something it would be of value.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by aidos »

vmception wrote: post #9

I honestly get giggles from how unprepared they are culturally for what becoming America-like will do to them. Does anyone else? American-like but with no negotiating leverage and having burned all the bridges to the other economic unions.

Not that I voted for this, but what’s done is done. And now that it is, I’d personally like to take the wins where we can get them.

Hoping we see the light, and the blight that is the cookie law goes the way of the dodos.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by bornelsewhere »

piokoch wrote: post #28

For me the biggest flaw of GDPR that it does not distinguish between something done as a business to make money and something done non-profit, as a hobby project, etc. GDPR killed forums, etc. everything moved to Facebook groups, where people agree to whatever Facebook wants. Who will create forum for a community if one has to deal with all the bureaucracy, "right to be forgotten", data accuracy checks, data export r…

If you do not have resources to take care of PI then perhaps do not gather and store it in the first place?

Forums do not necessarily require personal information to exist.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by andy_ppp »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #37
andy_ppp wrote: post #19

I mean this of course means EU data won’t be able to be stored on British servers as I understand it. More barriers to trade, it’s like this government is trying to destroy the economy...

As far as I understand it, it currently can't be hosted in the UK anyways. As the requirement is to store the data within the EU.

If we were able to agree to those rules I'm sure we could strike a deal with the EU. This has always been the name of the game right - if you play by each set of rules and align the EU probably sees that as a net benefit and lets countries align, for eaxample Switzerland can still host EU personal data, from the article:

"Fortunately, Switzerland, along with 12 other non-EEA countries, has received an "adequacy decision" from the European Commission. An adequacy decision is a recognition of the strength of Switzerland's data protection law."

https://www.termsfeed.com/blog/gdpr-switzerland/

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by Freak_NL »

dependsontheq wrote: post #33
killtimeatwork wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work in an large euroepan enterprise and our GDPR compliance is... absymal. And we're not even investing that much into becoming more compliant. My impression is that the board is in a state of denial, as doing GDPR properly would probably cost us billions.

That my be true - but I work with a lot of companies and they way the legal departments are hunting down problems has changed dramatically. I have customers that are asking "Do we really need this kind of data".

Also:

“Did we do a PIA?”

“Is this a data leak and should we contact their privacy officer?”

These are common questions now. GDPR changed a lot of things. The basic idea that you'd just send and receive any data you have that seems useful from a technical standpoint to third parties and see what you would actually end up using is gone. Step one is as you say: “do we really need this kind of data?”

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by arkitaip »

lanevorockz wrote: post #23
vmception wrote: post #9

I honestly get giggles from how unprepared they are culturally for what becoming America-like will do to them. Does anyone else? American-like but with no negotiating leverage and having burned all the bridges to the other economic unions.

The EU as a political union exists a little over a decade, if anything the UK never adapted to it.

You should teach history at college.
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