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UK to depart from GDPR

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Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by tomelders »

reader_mode wrote: post #36
vmception wrote: post #9

I honestly get giggles from how unprepared they are culturally for what becoming America-like will do to them. Does anyone else? American-like but with no negotiating leverage and having burned all the bridges to the other economic unions.

Yeah we saw the mighty EU negotiation leverage with COVID vaccine... UK market is large enough to stand on it's own and EU has been grossly incompetent in public for a while now. There's going to be downsides for sure but becoming "America like" is not going to be one of them.

You're cherry picking.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by gampleman »

piokoch wrote: post #28

For me the biggest flaw of GDPR that it does not distinguish between something done as a business to make money and something done non-profit, as a hobby project, etc. GDPR killed forums, etc. everything moved to Facebook groups, where people agree to whatever Facebook wants. Who will create forum for a community if one has to deal with all the bureaucracy, "right to be forgotten", data accuracy checks, data export r…

A school most certainly already is a data controller as it has way more PII than just your kids name.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by Jonnax »

8fingerlouie wrote: post #12
Hamuko wrote: post #2

> new information commissioner to focus not just on privacy but on the use of data for ‘economic and social goals’. Congratulations Britons, your data's back on sale.

I wonder if we will now see a situation where British companies will be forced to move their cloud out of GB, to i.e. Ireland if they want to do business with the rest of Europe ? The thing is, even though the GB decides to ditch GDPR, they're still bound by it if they want to do business with the rest of Europe, just like the US is bound by it.

So with a quick search online, I found this site:

https://incountry.com/blog/data-residency-laws-by-country-ov...

Organisations which receive and hold any of regulated data types to follow the GDPR requirements. According to GDPR, companies have to keep the data secure inside the EU and if the data is to be transferred outside of the UE, then it can only be transferred to countries or organisations that have signed up to equivalent privacy protection."

So the EU has all the power here to say that the UK doesn't meet their standards and require businesses to transfer their data.

However, I would guess that most international organisations would have already moved their EU customer data out of the UK.

There were years of uncertainty with the Brexit negotiations, keeping data in the UK would have too much risk.

Plus many other countries have data residency laws, so it's not like a foreign concept to international businesses.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by HugoDaniel »

lanevorockz wrote: post #23
vmception wrote: post #9

I honestly get giggles from how unprepared they are culturally for what becoming America-like will do to them. Does anyone else? American-like but with no negotiating leverage and having burned all the bridges to the other economic unions.

The EU as a political union exists a little over a decade, if anything the UK never adapted to it.

Mistaking the EU, the political union as an evolved form of the Rome treaty, with Euro, the coin. All that with the tone of absolute certainty and authority.

Hacker News has reached new lows :(

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by CaptainZapp »

boomskats wrote: post #40
vmception wrote: post #9

I honestly get giggles from how unprepared they are culturally for what becoming America-like will do to them. Does anyone else? American-like but with no negotiating leverage and having burned all the bridges to the other economic unions.

It's unclear whether the 'they' you refer to are the British people, or the class of ruling individuals who know exactly what they're doing and are set to profit immensely. (I'm aware that all sounds quite America-like already)

> or the class of ruling individuals who know exactly what they're doing and are set to profit immensely.

I'm really not sure about that. I agree that may be the case with some of those ruling individuals. My impression is that Johnson doesn't believe in anything, except his personal interest and profit.

Others in that cabinet, however, really appear to be true believers.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by username_my1 »

killtimeatwork wrote: post #17
james-bcn wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you work in enterprise it absolutely has made a big difference.

I work in an large euroepan enterprise and our GDPR compliance is... absymal. And we're not even investing that much into becoming more compliant. My impression is that the board is in a state of denial, as doing GDPR properly would probably cost us billions.

there is usually annual report by some law firms talking about the state of GDPR, and so far the EU or states hasn't been keen on charging high fines as the law suggest instead closer to slap on the wrist kind of fines for transgressions that sounds big when you read the law.

I think most corps by now realize that and are willing to live with the risk rather than lose a lot of data and introduce a lot of processes.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by lanevorockz »

dash2 wrote: post #6

YIPPEE. Does this mean no more of those stupid little popups every time I see a site? HOORAY. Does it mean less absurd bureaucracy and non-jobs? GREAT. As for data privacy... does anyone seriously think that Facebook was stopped from collecting data due to GDPR?

That is true, it’s pure naivety to believe GDPR changed anything. It enforced cookies to ask for permission and a few billions in extra bureaucracy. I don’t get why people want to live in a Kafka novel

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by nicoburns »

ArkanExplorer wrote: post #21

To 99% of internet users, GDPR has meant nothing except extra popups, blocked access to some websites, and an additional regulatory burden. In some cases bad actors exploited GDPR for fraudulent purposes - eg. requesting a full account deletion in the event of a ban. They can then recreate the same account with the same data.

I don't think that's true. I've watched a complete about face by companies when faced by the GDPR. Previously the attitude was to collect and store as much data as possible "just in case" it was later useful. With GDPR, management is suddenly aware of the legal liability of storing this data, and it's generally only stored if it's actually needed.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by Blikkentrekker »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #37
andy_ppp wrote: post #19

I mean this of course means EU data won’t be able to be stored on British servers as I understand it. More barriers to trade, it’s like this government is trying to destroy the economy...

As far as I understand it, it currently can't be hosted in the UK anyways. As the requirement is to store the data within the EU.

I thought the data could be exported to any country whose laws offer the same level of protection.
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