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they’re 66% the same thing. yes /s
the important part is that either makes you an expert on ML :)
the real MVP... or MLVP... seeing the neural nets in XML!
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Probably some of that, plus the factors mentioned in Joel's old blog post: In an over-simplified world of Good Developers and Bad Developers, the Good Developers generally don't get fired or quit much, and if they do, can usually get another job through references they made at their last one. If they happen to not have any references who can get them a new job and enter the general recruiting market, they usually get…
I've had the same job for 9 years, but I'm not marketable. I guess I fall into the bad developer category.
I'd say that puts you in the good developer category, or someone with a job they like. Hopefully both!
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#713> That way, when candidates were pitched to us with "X years of MOVA experience", we knew that somebody was full of it. I'd put my money on the recruiter. I once had an excruciatingly awkward interview at a company on an industrial estate in the middle of nowhereland with no train station nearby that took me bloody ages to get to… which was actually going well until they asked me about my long experience with Exchang…
Had the almost exact same experience, but with Java. I'm a C# developer and although I have some experience with Java, I don't have enough to list it as a skill on my CV. Anyways, in this interview I was being asked about Java and I answered every question by saying I don't really know Java. The interviewers were obviously getting annoyed. So I asked "Sorry, I thought this was a C# job?". No, it was a Java job and ma…
This is why I don’t work with recruiters any more.
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#714I've always had trouble with my worth as a developer. There are multiple reasons I won't get into, but the recruiter I used to get hired at my current employer helped me drive my salary request way North of what I was comfortable negotiating for on my own. I grappled with whether or not I deserved it, and still do at times, but I was obviously very appreciative - regardless of their reasoning. Now that I've been prom…
My guess is that salary is mostly unrelated to one's skills. It mostly depends on what company you work for, and your negotiation skills. Actual knowledge and skills are maybe on the third place. There is also timing: if you join when the company desperately needs another developer, you may get better deal than the developers who are already there. Also, whom you know, who recommends you. I know a guy who is 10x smar…
I really appreciate this perspective. I'm not looking to leave my current employer anytime soon, but I definitely want to start networking now. Not only for a potential move, but hopefully to build my own thing one day.
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#715This reminds me of when IT hardware vendors had reached an epidemic level of false advertising and people would start asking them if their hardware supported RFC 2549.
The honest ones said no. The liars said yes, and the occasional clever ones said they were hoping to support IP over carrier pigeon in a later product line.
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> "Sure aren't Java and C# are pretty much the same thing?" While it was extremely unethical for him to change your CV, Java and C# are indeed very similar, to the point that most organizations use devs with that background interchangeably. If that company really ruled you out because you had 7 years of C# experience, and not 7 years of Java experience, you likely dodged a bullet.
> If that company really ruled you out because you had 7 years of C# experience, and not 7 years of Java experience, you likely dodged a bullet. Respectfully, I disagree. Things that you should learn over 7 years of experience go far beyond learning the language itself or the fundamentals of its standard library. We're talking about two very different ecosystems.
> We're talking about two very different ecosystems.
Are we talking about the vast differences between Akka and Akka.NET? ;-)
Honestly, to the extent the ecosystems are different, it is probably more valuable to add someone to a team with experience with a different ecosystem unless there is literally no one on the team with experience with the current one (and in that case, you might question your commitment). Yes, it takes a while to learn a given ecosystem thoroughly, but that's not really what is going to drive the productivity of your team.
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I was (and still am) interested in hiring people who would challenge manager, TL, ... and speak up if they think something is not right. That was just one of the filters.
> was (and still am) interested in hiring people who would challenge manager, TL, ... and speak up if they think something is not right. Sounds like mssundaram is just the person you need to hire then.
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I was (and still am) interested in hiring people who would challenge manager, TL, ... and speak up if they think something is not right. That was just one of the filters.
> was (and still am) interested in hiring people who would challenge manager, TL, ... and speak up if they think something is not right. Sounds like mssundaram is just the person you need to hire then.
Yes, I would love to chat and see if there is interest ;)
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I was (and still am) interested in hiring people who would challenge manager, TL, ... and speak up if they think something is not right. That was just one of the filters.
You're depending on being very lucky, People go through three phases: 1. they are too scared to challenge authority 2. they are not scared of challenging authority 3. they realize they can just go somewhere else Mature, intelligent Phase 3 people will only challenge authority if they know they're secure in doing so---if they trust you. But why should they trust you? They've never met you, you're just a job ad.
The price of hiring a wrong person is much higher than the price of not hiring a good one.
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I was (and still am) interested in hiring people who would challenge manager, TL, ... and speak up if they think something is not right. That was just one of the filters.
The trouble is, even people who would challenge things don't want to be forced to do so unnecessarily. I'm happy to speak up if something isn't right, but if that happens too often, I'll speak up using my feet. If an ad or interview gives me a vibe that most of my job is going to involve telling people they are wrong, I'll choose a different job.
I think your experience would strongly depend on whether people listen when you tell them they are wrong. I think you will enjoy it if they actually do listen and fix things you point out as wrong.