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Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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"But can you code in API? I don't want your life story, just answer me! Do you know API?!" I'm so lucky, I think I found the best recruiter in all Vancouver. He helped me get my ideal role and was generally kind and competent. Just to offset the horror stories.

“But can you code in API?” “Sure, can I pay you in ATM?”

"Sorry, I refuse favors for my work. It's inappropriate and unethical. Plus, ass-to-mouth isn't really my thing :/ "

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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So, let me get this straight - you lie about your job requirements, but get all bent out of shape when the candidates lie right back at you? Brilliant. I can’t think of a better example of why hiring is broken; of how unequal the power dynamic is between employers and employees.

You don't list it as a requirement; list it as something that would be nice to have.

Still super creepy and psycho

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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That's something I've noticed over the last 10 years or so as job descriptions get longer. All those new terms like React, Vue, SaaS, Azure, AWS etc. They don't really know what they mean. I was asked if I could code in Azure. This led to a weird conversation where I was trying to explain what Azure was, whilst he wouldn't listen to me and was adamant that it was a programming language.

Not a recruiter but a co-worker who asked me "Do you know what an algorithm is? We might need one."

"Get a bundle, they are cheaper."

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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I meet couple of recruiters who insist on me sending them CV as DOC. I tell them that I have carefully typeset my CV in LaTeX in PDF and I am not willing to rewrite it to Word. Usually this is the end of it and they just take my PDF. I have once been on an interview and interviewer pulled out my CV, obviously horribly mangled in Word. I told him that no, this isn't my CV and that I take too much pride in whatever I m…

Re word documents do go in document systems in the hiring firm so they might be the one asking for that. As for the latter. You don't have one CV you have a separate CV for each application and tune it to the ad. The ad is what the hiring firm is interested in and if you fit their needs and not does the firm fit your needs, that is for you to discover from the ad or from the interview process

My history of projects and technologies I worked with do not change depending on who asks.

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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That's when you reply: no, "UML" was 3 versions before "XML"

ACTUALLY it was 4 versions, although it was vendor specific most ML experts consider Wx a version unto itself, especially since it was MLXO compliant.

don't forget to rotate your carburator bearings.

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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"The whole recruitment process seems broken " The IT market is pretty good compared to other fields but in the and, the market might have collapsed already. ""The Market for Lemons: Quality Uncertainty and the Market Mechanism" is a well-known[1][2] 1970 paper by economist George Akerlof which examines how the quality of goods traded in a market can degrade in the presence of information asymmetry between buyers and…

In Johnathan Swift's “Gulliver's Travels” (published 1726) it is stated that fraudulent behavior needs to be punished systematically since the erosion of trust will eventually destroy a market. Your comment describes a situation where exactly that happened. It is frustrating to see such an important (and simple) lesson, known literally for centuries, get forgotten or ignored.

That's the book from which the term endian comes, right?

Worth a read?

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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I had a recruiter say "XML and UML are basically the same, right?". There's almost a dangerous level of knowledge among some recruiters where they think they know enough to do crap like this.

Ha Ha. Thats’s even worse than the ‘C Hashtag’ that an HR dude was rambling on about.

Twitter is most definitely the fastest C pre-processor out there.

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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TBF the recruiter likely was parroting what a previous candidate they were repping told them. I frequently find I have to re-educate recruiters who were previously informed incorrectly.

Absolutely, but that was kind of my point. A lot of recruiters I've encountered are like talking to a markov chain trained from some job ads. It sounds right if you don't actually know what the words mean.

..."maybe they are"... did you check for a pulse? I suppose there's nothing preventing walking Markov chains from having pulses...

But your comment is the pithiest most succinct one here. Throw away the OP's tweet and all these comments, especially mine, and just put your comment on a blank page and let's call it's the succintestist summary possible.

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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post #480

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I think HN has been recently overtaken by a lot of very neoliberal people who preach unregulated capitalism very hard.

A world where basic income isn't downvoted, but strong trade unions or anti-trust laws are is a weird one.

Unions definitely have their upsides, but also some rather strong downsides (c.f. most police unions).

Basic income has many of the same upsides, but the downsides are mostly about the dollar cost.

It's not unreasonable that some people prefer to pay (eg) higher taxes than suffer various forms of corruption.

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