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YouTube tells foreign creators they will soon be charged American tax

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RT is Russian state media, thus its propagandist, its not a real news outlet. There is no "journalism" tradition there in terms of ethics, trust, standards, etc. It follows the party line and the Kremlin's needs, which currently are to make the US/West look as bad as possible.

not defending RT, but I've been seeing it in NYT, Verge, Bloomberg too. That's more what prompted my question.

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How is abiding to the U.S. law, where Google/YouTube is incorporated a "risky move"? It's not like there is a choice. https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/101463270?hl=en

Isn't Google conveniently abiding to Chinese law in China as well? How does your logic work?

Except that Google is an American company.

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That seems like a potentially risky move from YouTube. Won't every other country now demand that they do the same for them? This is going to be extremely confusing for creators. I can't imagine anyone but the very largest YouTubers being able to handle getting taxed in multiple countries and figure out what exactly they need to pay at home. Actually, the large YouTubers may be better of simply demonetizing they video…

How is abiding to the U.S. law, where Google/YouTube is incorporated a "risky move"? It's not like there is a choice. https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/101463270?hl=en

Google is a multinational, they have a subsidiary in almost every single country. If they wanted, they could operate the local YouTube creator services under every jurisdiction not to charge this tax, and may very well be forced to.

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You are hellbanned btw. They are making money from Spanish viewers - Spanish YouTube premium and Spanish advert impressions.

YouTube makes money from Spanish YouTube Premium subscribers and Spanish companies buying ad slots. Spanish YouTubers make money from YouTube.

YouTube is operated by Google Ireland Limited, which is not in the US, so your base argument is flawed...

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But why? If you’re not physically present in the US and are not a US citizen, why would you be subject to (income) tax? Or is that not a form of income tax, but something else?

It is a form of income tax, yes. It's on top of sales taxes. And yes this means double taxation..

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#116

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RT is Russian state media, thus its propagandist, its not a real news outlet. There is no "journalism" tradition there in terms of ethics, trust, standards, etc. It follows the party line and the Kremlin's needs, which currently are to make the US/West look as bad as possible.

An important caveat is that they also post lots of normal content, so that it's harder to argue that RT should be blocked outright, and harder to identify the propaganda.

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I am not a tax expert, and I’m speaking from a U.S. perspective, but if the earnings are via stream donations (not ads), would that not be considered a small gift and not be taxable?

Tax law 101: You cannot turn a transaction for a product into a pair of "gifts" between the parties. Where both parties are subject to contracts for services or payments, there are no gifts. Similarly, all "gifts" from employers to employees are considered non-gift income. A car given to an employee as a "gift" is income to the employee and a taxable deduction by the employer. See Duesenberg (I'm trying to find the c…

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Re: YouTube tells foreign creators they will soon be charged American tax

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I thought that was a strange phrasing as well? Since when is YouTube more powerful than national governments? People seem to be under some confusion as to how business works. The governments tell YouTube what YouTube has to do to operate in their jurisdiction, and YouTube either does it, or leaves that jurisdiction. If Togo made the demand, you can leave. If the US or Germany make the demand, you say, "Right away sir…

Then I guess EU should do the same. Americans on YouTube should pay taxes in EU on EU ad views or YouTube should leave EU. But I think in practice EU is thinking more in direction of simply taxing global profits of tech giants.

Tax global income of a company not based in EU for doing business in the EU? Is that what you mean?

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Isn't Google conveniently abiding to Chinese law in China as well? How does your logic work?

Except that Google is an American company.

OP just argued that the reason why Google abides to US law is because it's a US company. Their actions however show they abide to whichever laws are more convenient for them.

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How is abiding to the U.S. law, where Google/YouTube is incorporated a "risky move"? It's not like there is a choice. https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/101463270?hl=en

Remote workers will be screwed then. I've worked for companies incorporated in Switzerland and I live in Poland, why on earth would that make sense to pay Swiss tax if I live and work in PL? Also Alphabet is a Delaware incorporated company - tax haven, plus there's the good ol' tax haven of Dublin that FANGs love and Google is located in, like Facebook, Amazon, insert other multi-billion turnover company. For anyone…

My impression is that tax laws don't necessarily make sense. Rather, they embody the attempts of the politicly powerful to shift tax burden onto others.

In your case, the power imbalance would come from Poland (or the EU?) not prioritizing your situation in trade negotiations with Switzerland. And your inability to force the EU to change that.

That's my working theory anyway. Happy to be corrected.

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