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Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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Some pictures of the building with firefighters at work https://www.dna.fr/faits-divers-justice/2021/03/10/strasbour... Edit: Video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9jL_THG58U Satellite view of the site on Google Maps https://goo.gl/maps/L2T6YNFCtiyDdiNv7

That is a disturbingly large amount of flame. I was expecting a datacenter to not have much in the way of flammable material.

...then I read in some other comments here that they used wood in the interior construction.

Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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Yeah, they scale down to their kimsufi line which used to have quite powerful dedicated servers for the price of basic VPSes from other providers. e.g. They have a 4core, 16gb ram server for $22/mo which is 25% of what my preferred provider, Linode, charges. Now, it comes with older consumer hardware (that one is a sandy bridge i5), and about as much support as the price tag suggests, as well as a dated management in…

Dated? They're probably the only place that isn't $comedy "bare metal cloud" pricing that not only has an API for their $5/m servers but also the panel is a reasonably modern SPA that implements that API and uses OAuth for login

Has it been replaced since I last used it in ~2016? This is not the interface I had to use at all.

This is the interface they had when I used them last:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5-J_DO_FS0

Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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https://twitter.com/olesovhcom/status/1369504527544705025 "Update 5:20pm. Everybody is safe. Fire destroyed SBG2. A part of SBG1 is destroyed. Firefighters are protecting SBG3. no impact SBG4."

> Fire destroyed SBG2 This is crazy. SBG2 was HUGE and if this isn't a translation error on the part of Octave (which I could understand given the stress and ESL) I have a hard time fathoming what kind of fire could destroy a whole facility with nearly 1000 racks of equipment spread out across separated halls. I'm really hoping "destroyed" here means "we lost all power and network core and there's smoke/fire/physical…

Data centers frequently burn down, or are destroyed by natural disaster.

These days, fire suppression systems need to be non-lethal, so inert gasses are out. Water is too, for obvious reasons. Last I checked, they flooded the inside of the DC with airborne powder that coats everything (especially the inside of anything with a running fan). Once that deploys, the machines in the data center are a write off even if the fire was minor.

Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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Dated? They're probably the only place that isn't $comedy "bare metal cloud" pricing that not only has an API for their $5/m servers but also the panel is a reasonably modern SPA that implements that API and uses OAuth for login

Has it been replaced since I last used it in ~2016? This is not the interface I had to use at all. This is the interface they had when I used them last: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5-J_DO_FS0

Yeah this is not at all what you use now. It's an Angular SPA.

It is still a mess of separate accounts, but you can use email addr to log in instead of random-numbers generated handle.

The OVHCloud US is completely separated for legal purposes, from what I remember. No account sharing, different staff, OVH EU cannot help you at all with US accounts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2G6TkKg0gQ

Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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> Google is showing quite regurlaly that it's not a reliable business partner Interesting, any examples?

I'm not the OP, but I'd imagine it is the combination of no support line and algorithmic suspension of business accounts. It is a relevant risk.

Yeah, I was thinking about all the horror stories that can be found on this site.

As a customer (or maybe an "involontary data provider"), I do as much as I can to avoid Google to be my SPOF, not technically (it's really technically reliable) but on the business side. I had to setup my own mail server just to avoid any risk of google-ban for example... just in case. I won't use Google authentificator for the same reason. I'm happy to have left Google Photos some years ago, to avoid problems of Google shutting it down. And the list could go on...

As a business, I like to program Android apps but the Google Store is really a risk too. Risk to have any Google account blacklisted because some algorithm thought I did something wrong. And no appeal.

Maybe all this doesn't apply to GCP customers. Maybe GCP customers have a human direct line, with someone to really help and the capacity to do it. Or maybe it's just Google: as long as it work, enjoy. If it doesn't, go to (algorithmic) hell.

Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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Seems like data.gouv.fr [1], the government platform for open data is impacted ; we might not get the nice COVID-19 graphs from non-governemental sites ([2], [3]) today. I can't wait for the conspiracy theories about how the fire is a "cover up" to "hide" bad COVID-19 numbers... [1] https://twitter.com/GuillaumeRozier/status/13695724905996902... [2] https://covidtracker.fr/ [3] https://www.meteo-covid.com/trouillocar…

it has nothing to do with covid:

- https://www.usine-digitale.fr/article/le-health-data-hub-heb...

- https://www.genethique.org/la-cnam-refuse-le-transfert-globa...

- https://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr/bretagne/donnees-med...

Here is more plausible conspiracy theory: USA/microsoft is behind the cyberattacks and the fire

Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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Dated? They're probably the only place that isn't $comedy "bare metal cloud" pricing that not only has an API for their $5/m servers but also the panel is a reasonably modern SPA that implements that API and uses OAuth for login

Has it been replaced since I last used it in ~2016? This is not the interface I had to use at all. This is the interface they had when I used them last: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5-J_DO_FS0

Yes it changed. It was replaced by a more modern version a few years ago (but the transition was painful, as not everything was implemented in the new version when they started to deploy it).

Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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I can think of a lot of big differences. For one you can get much larger machines at OVH and Hetzner with fancy storage configurations for your database if desired (e.g. Optane for your indices, magnetic drives for your transaction log, and raided SSDs for the tables) They also don't charge for bandwidth, although some of those other providers have a generous free bandwidth and cheap overage.

> Optane for your indices At OVH? If so, their US data centers don't seem to have that option. Not that I need it. The largest database I run could easily fit in RAM on a reasonably sized dedicated box.

I didn't realize they had US datacenters before now. It's possible that's no longer an option. It was on the largest servers in the Montreal datacenter when I specced that out.

Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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Not done any research into it, but I always thought OVH was supposed to be a very budget VPS service primarily for personal use rather than business. Although thought it was akin to having a Raspberry Pi plugged in at home. Again, I may be completely wrong but why would you not use AWS/GCP? Even if it's complexity, Amazon have Lightsail, or if it's cost I thought DigitalOcean was one of the only reputable business-gr…

OVH is a European equivalent to Digital Ocean. It has twice the revenue, and is the third largest hosting provider in the world.

Twice the revenue of DigitalOcean still puts it < $1B ARR, or am I missing something? I can’t see how that’s the third largest in the world, or does your definition of “hosting provider” exclude clouds?
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