Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building • Hacker News Board

Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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Post by mwcampbell » Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 2:23 PM UTC

lrem wrote: post #165

regecks wrote: post #126

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4&fmt=18

Because of course it was Bryan :D

Actually, although the video is on Bryan Cantrill's YouTube account, that was Brendan Gregg.

Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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Post by divingdragon » Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 2:27 PM UTC

etiennemarcel wrote: post #338

divingdragon wrote: post #303

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You might be thinking of Halons, which are CFCs that depletes the ozone layer? They are mostly phased out worldwide but existing installations might still be in use. FM200 is something else that is often used in modern builds (not just datacenters).

It seems that HFC are being phased out too: https://ec.europa.eu/clima/policies/f-gas/legislation_en

I've heard that one. I thought it mostly affects refrigerants, but I didn't notice that FM200 is also an HFC. There are other fire suppression gasses with a low global warming potential, which probably can still be used in the future.

Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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Post by curiousgal » Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 2:29 PM UTC

Came across this on r/France

https://i.imgur.com/epj1Lue.png

Translation :

We lost our Gitlab and backups...

And the automatic backups that had been put in place no longer worked so a priori we lost everything...

Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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Post by rplnt » Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 2:30 PM UTC

sailingparrot wrote: post #401

rplnt wrote: post #396

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Now that is weird. I fully understand not having a backup service in place, but no data backup either?

TBF "data" here means the state of the gameworld which anyway resets entirely every 2 weeks or every month, so it's not exactly a big deal, everyone constantly start over in Rust.

Ah, I see. That makes sense then. I thought it's an everlasting game world, thanks for clarification.

Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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Post by archit3cture » Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 2:32 PM UTC

in case there were not posted before, here are pictures of SBG2 in flames taken by the firemen. https://twitter.com/xgarreau/status/1369559995491172354

This puts an image on the sentence "SBG2 is destroyed". Do not expect any recovery from SBG2.

Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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Post by hedora » Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 2:33 PM UTC

vntok wrote: post #274

tweetle_beetle wrote: post #238

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I feel like there should be place to report infrastructure suppliers with misleading status pages, some kind of crowdsourced database. Without this information, you only find out that they are misleading when something goes very wrong. At best you might be missing out on some SLA refunds, but at worst it could be disasterous for a business. I've been on the wrong side of a update-by-hand status system from a hosting…

https://downdetector.fr/

Wtf is this disclaimer on Down Detector for? (Navigate to OVH page.). It sits in front of user comments, I think:

> Unable to display this content to due missing consent. By law, we are required to ask your consent to show the content that is normally displayed here.

Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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Post by sergiosgc » Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 2:35 PM UTC

posix_me_less wrote: post #407

olivierduval wrote: post #370

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OVH STARTED as a budget VPS service some 20 years ago... but they grew a lot since 6-7 years, adding more "cloud" services and capabilities, even not on par with the main players... Why not use AWS/GCP? From my personal point of view: as a French citizen, I'm more and more convinced that I can't completly trust the (US) big boys for my own safety. Trump showed that "US interest" is far more important than "customer i…

> Google is showing quite regurlaly that it's not a reliable business partner Interesting, any examples?

I'm not the OP, but I'd imagine it is the combination of no support line and algorithmic suspension of business accounts. It is a relevant risk.

Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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Post by nnx » Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 2:38 PM UTC

crubier wrote: post #145

The key differentiator of OVH is the very compact datacenters they achieve thanks to water cooling. Some OVH exec were touting about that in a recent podcast. Interestingly in this case, having a very compact data center was probably an aggravating factor. This shows how complex these technical choices are, you have to think of operating savings, with a trade off on the gravity of black swan events...

Interesting. That said, the technique is not the issue here, losing a whole datacenter can always happen. This event would have been much less serious if all the four SBG* datacenters were not all so close to each other on the same plot of land.

They are so close to each other that they are basically the same physical datacenter with 4 logical partitions.

Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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Post by formerly_proven » Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 2:39 PM UTC

dolmen wrote: post #395

lebaux wrote: post #333

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Isn’t that why things like statuspage.io exist, though?

Where is statuspage.io hosted?

In the cloud of course. Why do you ask?

Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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Post by refraincomment » Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 2:40 PM UTC

I will never gonna financially recover from this..