Modern action films fetishize the body even as they desexualize it

Post by bigiain » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 9:37 PM UTC

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The ones that have stuck in my head over the years have been Daywatch and Nightwatch, Leviathan, and How I Ended This Summer. I’m sure there’s a few more I can’t remember right now. (I highly recommend all of those...)

Oh, sure, the former two are very nice. You might like https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0376968/ The Return and it sequel, The Banishment https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0488905/ They are sort of 'harder' than the 'How I Ended This Summer'. Unfortunately, 2010-s didn't deliver much.

Post by bigfudge » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 10:13 PM UTC

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I meant more from a cultural perspective than a purely behavioural one. Just curious if there are some obvious cultural differences which contribute to being brought up with nudity being more normalized.

For Scandinavia, some things come to mind. Most TV shows and movies have sex scenes. The people having sex are always very average looking. Sex scenes are usually not sexy or romantic but just chaotic and awkward, and very every-day-lifey. Like a middle aged couple having sex in the bedroom and their 5 year old kid opens the door and one of them is chocked and falls out of the bed and breaks a finger. They have to dr…

Post by skedaddle » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 10:27 PM UTC

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> I think this is an accurate summary of certain conservative or puritanical stances on sexuality. Of course there are also decades of progressive literature that argue why this is essentially bullshit. Those ideas served civilization for thousands of years. But after just two generations of “progressive literature” western countries have literally ceased to be self-sustaining, becoming reliant on importing the next…

> Those ideas served civilization for thousands of years. Civilisation also had wars and famines for thousands of years to manage population and "cull off the weak". Do you want to go back to that? > western countries have literally ceased to be self-sustaining, becoming reliant on importing the next generation from conservative Latin (in North America) and Muslim (in Europe) countries. Victory! And yet the same peop…

Post by wernercd » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 11:38 PM UTC

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I don't want to serve coffee... or apply application hotfixes (stuff more typically "administrators" or "ops")... but at my pay rate? I'd do it and question why I'm getting paid $$$$$ to do something that $ can do.

If your boss is the sort of person who would serve coffee to the team you're probably fine cowtowing in this way. Otherwise, I think you risk being tainted in their eyes. They might see the others at the meeting as superior, wrt the role of programmer (etc.); and unconsciously associate you with less technical work. I think you risk "why are we paying $$$$$, isn't that the guy who serves the coffee" even if it's subc…

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Mar 09, 2021, 12:20 AM UTC

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The worst example of sex in film has to be the sex scene in the Matrix trilogy. Easily the most boring two minutes of the whole thing. They didn't even show it going in so what's the point

My understanding (and it’s been awhile) is that the choice Neo made by going with Trinity and being alone with her instead of the group was a crucial moment which foreshadows his decision to save Trinity instead of fulfill his duty to as “the one” to reboot the matrix.