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Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by jamespitts »

ajross wrote: post #155
jamespitts wrote: post #130

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I worked at a place in Santa Monica called the Water Garden and it did seem isolated. And seeing cities like NYC and Taipei and even downtown Ann Arbor, I realize the benefits of new urbanism. However, I wonder if there is a new model emerging here in next generation corporate work centers. Buildings will get so large that they are act as their own cities, creating space that can be returned to ecological use. Such b…

Not to laugh too much, because I agree with you, but... You do realize that what you're positing (giant work buildings, close together, with all needed facilities nearby and lots of intra- and extra- transit access to nearby housing) is what most of us call an "urban downtown area", right? You don't need to invent this. People already figured it out.

Y, I do! That companies seeking an isolated, concentrated workforce somehow vibes with new urbanism is a big stretch. Worse, I am biased by the aesthetic and technical qualities of this building concept, and it overwhelms practical considerations. This is exactly how so many planners bought into modernist architecture.

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by malkia »

jamespitts wrote: post #130
thingie wrote: post #49

I work in a small office park located quite similarly on a grassy field locked entirely by some freeways and other large roads, though the buildings here are cheap and ugly, but even if they weren't, it'd still totally suck. It's isolated, not a part of the city, essentially, it's just a large parking lot (most of which is below the ground, but that doesn't really change anything). It's quite disappointing. Maybe it'…

I worked at a place in Santa Monica called the Water Garden and it did seem isolated. And seeing cities like NYC and Taipei and even downtown Ann Arbor, I realize the benefits of new urbanism. However, I wonder if there is a new model emerging here in next generation corporate work centers. Buildings will get so large that they are act as their own cities, creating space that can be returned to ecological use. Such b…

Naughty Dog?

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by cpeterso »

impendia wrote: post #127
goatforce5 wrote: post #119

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He did point out a couple of times that they're the largest tax payer in Cupertino and while they wanted to stay, they've go a couple of miles up the road to the next city if they needed to. Also note the councillors asked when they'd be breaking ground so they could start taxing them on it. Apple wouldn't have to look hard to get big incentives to hop over the city boundary, and they'll keep reminding the council th…

Possibly so. I should add that I'm not saying Cupertino should prevent Apple from building. I lived in Menlo Park for a year before moving to SF, and was struck by how anti-development the Menlo Park and Palo Alto governments (and ordinary citizens) were. Perhaps Cupertino is different. And, this proposal is pretty damn cool. Underground parking? That's fabulous.

Neither SF residents nor the city council are known for their pro-development attitude. Beyond NIMBY is BANANA: Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything.

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by Apple-Guy »

YooLi wrote: post #152
kabdib wrote: post #87

A bit of Silly Valley lore: Go graph "Company builds a new campus" against "Company stock falls like a rock." Atari, 1983. Apple, 1991. Sun (both times, I forget the years). SGI, 1990s. Various other companies (I forget which, it's been a while). It's like the hubris builds up to the point where the company is in a natural position to say, "Hey, we need a new campus," and the Gods decide that a little humiliation is…

What about all the other companies that built new campuses and their stock didn't fall?

Exactly. Google's new campus: http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_18081606?nclick_check=1

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by Apple-Guy »

r00fus wrote: post #171
enf wrote: post #124

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Palo Alto and Mountain View have real places; the rest is pretty much all miserable sprawl. I miss working in downtown Palo Alto.

Cupertino "downtown" is a joke (I used to work there)... it's basically the intersection of two large streets (Stevens Creek at De Anza). Likewise Sunnyvale and Santa Clara are quite anemic, but Los Gatos, Saratoga and even Los Altos aren't bad. MV and PA are great places to dine. Cupertino is the only town I've worked in that never had a downtown.

Apple should just make an underground Cupertino downtown at that site.

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Post by furyg3 »

hugh3 wrote: post #135
henryl wrote: post #122

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It's the Hamptons Apartment complex. I currently live here.

Ooh, looking forward to your backyard becoming an enormous donut-shaped construction site?

Hopefully he owns his apartment, and is looking forward to the value of his house tripling...

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Post by bvhnw »

panacea wrote: post #116
jarek wrote: post #109

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If you take a closer look at the area, you can see they'll actually houses rather than office parks. They actually appear impressively dense by California standards. It's a lot harder to buy people's houses than a corporation's floors.

You're right (well they look like pretty nice apartment complexes) Streetview: http://goo.gl/3Qdhs Property prices just went waaay up there. Cash in and sell/lease to Apple employees, I'd imagine.

Not to mention the new apricot trees.

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by teyc »

In the "Man Who Fell to the Earth", http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Fell_to_Earth_(film.... the lead character is an extra terrestrial posing as a man, made a lot of money by being a technologist selling amazing "inventions" from his planet, and has a luxury apartment which turns out to be a spaceship, which is meant to cart water back to his planet, which has run out due to its use in power generation. Maybe Jobs is planning bring natural gas back to his planet?

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Post by zephjc »

camiller wrote: post #153
SoftwareMaven wrote: post #126

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As the sun wanders across the sky throughout the day and year, every office will have some time spent in direct sun and other times in the shade. I'd probably choose the south side if I could so I could get extra sun in the winter.

I used to have a desk next to a window. Me, and many others taped up newspapers to block the infernal glaring light.

"The Daystar!" hisssss
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