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Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by icey »

brudgers wrote: post #108
icey wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hallways, conference rooms, shops (there is a small mall in the Pentagon), more hallways, bunkers, monuments / military museums, and a bunch of other general use areas.

It's important to keep in mind that when the Pentagon was built, a computer was a person who did calculations and documents were sent to the secretarial pool to be typed; so the number and roles of its occupants were quite different. The space has been re-purposed over the past 70 years.

It's a very interesting building. You can tell that it was made with a focus on people walking from place to place. I think there are tours open to the public (but require a reservation). I'm pretty sure it's the only tour in the U.S. that features a Marine walking backwards for over a mile. I think there are over 15 miles of hallways in the Pentagon. There are 5 levels with 5 rings each, so you can imagine that's a lot of places to walk.

One of the things that isn't so nice now is the anti-radiation film that got placed on the windows after 9/11. The film is bright yellow, so everything that sunlight touches has kind of a gross pee colored tinge to it.

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by mashmac2 »

joubert wrote: post #86
aresant wrote: post #9

Only Steve could glue me to the screen for 20 mins to watch a city council meeting. It's like listening to PT Barnum read the J Peterman catalog.

The power of leading your presentation with a story.

Exactly. I recommend reading Resonate by Nancy Duarte (from the company that did Al Gore's slides).

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by stretchwithme »

guelo wrote: post #45

I don't know, I worked in a campus with a huge courtyard in the middle, though smaller than this, and it was mostly wasted unused space. I think it actually makes different parts of the company feel more isolated from each other because the other side of the building is so far way, the middle almost feels like an intimidating wilderness that you stay away from. If instead you have multiple smaller buildings connected…

I've worked as a contractor at apple and that interior courtyard can't be reached without having a working badge. Outsiders have to get a temp badge and be escorted.

When you're inside, everyone you encounter will be an Apple employee or contractor and not random people off the street. Which could be a problem for Apple, because there are tons of tourists that come by to have their picture taken. You really don't want these people bugging your employees.

And the cafe is completely open to the courtyard with no badging. You can't have an open campus and have the cafe open to the outside without a controlled outdoor space.

And it adds to the whole idea that this is an exclusive group of people. Which I always felt working there as a contractor. You're in but you're not as in as other people. I'm sure this is a very deliberate thing and it does work on many people.

Anyway, I've always wanted a house where you be in nature but be just as secure as you are in your house. I was in one house where the interior courtyard had trees and all the walls were glass inside. It was awesome. Sleeping outside would be just as safe as sleeping inside, except for the stray ninja attacks, of course.

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by dstein »

Tichy wrote: post #67
jacoblyles wrote: post #37

Apple style - one monolithic building designed down to the square foot. Google style - a motley assortment of buildings spread out over a large campus, some of which are better than others.

Has Apple found a way to make the sun shine from the North? Otherwise I think there will be rooms that are better than others in the round spaceship, too.

Who knows what the internal architecture is but it's possible they have natural lighting columns throughout the building.

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by hugh3 »

henryl wrote: post #122
jarek wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you take a closer look at the area, you can see they'll actually houses rather than office parks. They actually appear impressively dense by California standards. It's a lot harder to buy people's houses than a corporation's floors.

It's the Hamptons Apartment complex. I currently live here.

Ooh, looking forward to your backyard becoming an enormous donut-shaped construction site?

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by sambeau »

hugh3 wrote: post #75
Steko wrote: post #62

Just for perspective: Proposed Appleplex: 1.4 mil sq ft (?), 12-13k employees Pentagon: 6.5 mil sq ft (3.7 mil for offices), 26k employees Empire State Building: 2.8 mil sq ft, 21k (?) employees

Now I'm curious -- what's in the other 2.8 million square feet of the Pentagon?

In part, too many restrooms. They have twice as many as they need as they original built segregated rooms for blacks and whites.

http://www.snopes.com/military/pentagonbathrooms.asp

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by hugh3 »

grinich wrote: post #14
cleverjake wrote: post #7

I recently went to 1 infinite loop for the first time, and was extremely disappointed with the building. It was strikingly anti-apple in its aesthetic, seeming more like it was something out of Office Space from most angles rather than from the mind of Johnny Ives. I am really glad to see how forward-thinking the concept looks.

The Infinite Loop campus was actually buit in 1993, before Steve returned and Jony was made head of ID. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_Loop_(street)

Indeed, when Infinite Loop was built a Mac looked like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadra_700

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by jaysonelliot »

trout wrote: post #95

Does anyone else get a creepy Dubai vibe reading this? Some of the statements like 'there will be no straight glass' beg the question - is it really worth it?

You mean it "raises the question."

Begging the question means something completely different: http://begthequestion.info/

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by tptacek »

jacoblyles wrote: post #37

Apple style - one monolithic building designed down to the square foot. Google style - a motley assortment of buildings spread out over a large campus, some of which are better than others.

I have a bunch of friends at Apple. What you call Google's style is exactly what Apple's style is today, and it sucks. The best amenities are in 1 Infinite Loop, but employees in different groups are in random buildings all around Cupertino. Among other things, it means people end up walking 15-20 minutes just to meet coworkers for lunch.

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by bonzoesc »

vaporstun wrote: post #92
rflrob wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's close, depending on what you mean by size. Looking at the Pentagon diagram on wikipedia and using the above estimates of 1100-1200 feet for the Mothership, it's about comparable in diameter. I'm fairly sure the Pentagon rings are thicker, though, so that probably contributes to it's ability to house 26k (employees + support personnel) instead of Apple's 12-3k.

The Pentagon also has more height, with 4 stories above ground and at least 2 below. Don't know if Apple plans on having stories below ground, there was no mention during the presentation, but not doing so would account for more of the difference.

Apple plans to hide parking underground instead of leaving vast expanses of asphalt above ground like The Pentagon: http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qgbkxj8kbvq8&lvl=17...
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