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Dr. Seuss books deemed offensive will be delisted from eBay

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

With what pronouns you're allowed to use to describe yourself? Or what pronouns you're allowed to use to describe others?

I learned the hard way that using a persons name instead of desired pronoun is a major offense.

It is? Could you elaborate? I don’t know want to learn anything the hard way

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A bit off-topic, but I use Green Eggs and Ham to help teach my friends English here in Asia. It works pretty well, since there is quite a limited vocabulary. And it's pretty magical! I can have someone reading aloud from the book quite fluently, with extremely limited english skills, after only a few hours. The other part is, because of the superior illustration skills of the author, people quickly understand the dif…

Children's literature is undervalued by second-language learners. It will expose you to common language and vocabulary items that are, in a formal academic context, those you would be the least likely to encounter. (I can read an article in French usually without needing the dictionary on topics as diverse as cryptography and art history, but I don't know the words for some common kitchen utensils.)

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It's hard to tell from eBay's limited comment whether this is because eBay is super upset about the content of the books, or because they're worried these books will lead to fraudulent activity in the short term because of the hoopla surrounding them. It seems weird for it to be the former, considering eBay allows sale of much more offensive books.

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Now this part is getting a little too carried away. It is one thing for libraries and bookstores to decide not to offer for borrowing or sale things that they disagree with. It is another (and overstepping imo) for Ebay to restrict individual people from selling to others goods that are not illegal or in violation of their other practical rules (no selling jewelry, monetary equivalents, etc). This falls into the cate…

and from a platform that still allows Mein Kampf to be listed it seems especially idiotic... Edit, to add: as a comment below notes eBay only allows annotated versions of the book. So maybe they are consistent; I didn’t click through any of the listings when I searched. I also have no idea how you annotate Mein Kampf to not be racist/anti-Semitic propaganda...

Only annotated editions apparently.[1]

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26350364

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About 5 years ago a friend of mine was saying, "yeah, it's bad at the universities but it doesn't affect the real world." Pretty funny how quickly things accelerated. I'd like to get off this ride.

Eventually those people graduate

And it's not like we haven't seen the same pattern before with the Weather Underground. (I do feel obligated to acknowledge that I was one of those people on the "just in the universities" train 5 years ago, so I'm not accusing anyone of a mistake I haven't made myself.)

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post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Seuss books being removed aren't Green Eggs & Ham: they're the older racist books that Seuss apologized for later.

They're not racist - they're books with caricatures of any number of cultures, including Western cultures. It's possible people could be offended, but they're not any more offensive than any creative depiction of anything (Edit: poor choice of words there - they are more offensive than 'anything' but not more so than many things). All of Disney's films, even the most modern one's are caricatured articulations of cult…

I don't know yet if I agree with this. I suspect I won't when I make my mind up. Throat cleared.

The parent makes a point that needs to be heard and considered. It is reasonable part of this discussion.

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Now this part is getting a little too carried away. It is one thing for libraries and bookstores to decide not to offer for borrowing or sale things that they disagree with. It is another (and overstepping imo) for Ebay to restrict individual people from selling to others goods that are not illegal or in violation of their other practical rules (no selling jewelry, monetary equivalents, etc). This falls into the cate…

> It is one thing for libraries and bookstores to decide not to offer for borrowing or sale things that they disagree with. Ebay is a private merchant. They can choose what to list too. Maybe this presents a copyright problem with clones, we don't know. I found the books by googling the title and PDF because I was curious about why they were removed. Curiosity satisifed and I still love Dr. Seuss.

Comcast is a private company, they can choose what sites to allow. Maybe this is a problem with HN.

Colorado Power is a private company, they can choose who to sell power to. Maybe this is a problem with that data center.

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post #119

About 5 years ago a friend of mine was saying, "yeah, it's bad at the universities but it doesn't affect the real world." Pretty funny how quickly things accelerated. I'd like to get off this ride.

Yup. The adults in the room should have nipped this crap in the bud but instead they entertained it. Now it’s a much bigger problem to solve. Check out SFUSD renaming racists schools like “Lincoln High”. Eventually parents had start a recall effort to end it.

In case anyone is interested in that recall effort: https://www.recallsfschoolboard.org/

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Am I not alone in thinking this Neo-puritanism is going too far?

Had you ever heard of these six books before today? Have you ever read them? How many were sold? We've been sanitising kids books for decades now. What version of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory do you own? The original with actual African slaves and the colonialist rescue narrative, or the later version with Oompa Loompas and the colonialist rescue narrative? What version of Edward's Sneeze from the Thomas the Tan…

I read most if not all of the Seuss books as a kid, and got them from the public library, which had copies of them all.
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