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But you could always do this. Apple seems to go a step further and does this on your behalf. I think that’s newsworthy.
I still can't insert a USB drive into an iPad without hassle.
I still can’t download a car.
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I still can't insert a USB drive into an iPad without hassle.
And I can’t still plug my vga monitor into my iPhone.
Actually you can - there is an adapter [1] for that.
[1]: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MD825AM/A/lightning-to-vg...
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#263It is a bit sad to see something as simple as "you can now take your photos and put them where you want" become a newsworthy article. This is yet another demonstration that Digital Feudalism is alive and well, and just like its ancestor, we need to get rid of it by empowering people to be their own self
While it is sad that it is news worthy, it goes against Steve Jobs' ideology...
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It's the first part of the Data Transfer Project - an initiative between major online service providers to provide an easy way to transfer data between their services.
This is quite elaborately dishonest as data portability is one of the requirements of GDPR that came to life in 2018. It's not like suddenly those giants decided to be good companies and allowed data transfer between services. It looks like they use it as a PR piece and at the same time trying to ensure that users won't flock to competition that has not signed to their thing.
I think you’re looking at this the wrong way. The fact that companies can sell their regulatory obligations as a positive PR move is the carrot to get them to do it well and be proud of it. Stick only is how you get half-assed left to rot technically compliant implementations.
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You've always been "allowed" to move your photos from Apple Photos to Google Photos. The difference here is that Apple is doing it for you .
Oh. Well, my dislike for the big tech lock-in solutions is more general in nature. Thanks for clearing it up. Curious, what happens if Apple locks your account (not in their ecosystem but M1 got me apple-curious ;)? Can you still export you're data, photos?
What do you mean by "locks your account"? If you're using Photos on a Mac then everything is stored locally. If you're using iCloud, you still have the option to download all the originals locally. The only people that would really make use of this are those that don't know how to open the Photos library to access the photos directly.
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force protocols to be open would just about do it. People would trivially write cross-service applications on top and we could have an internet where people can freely move data around. Apple and Google would be delegated to the backend and users could choose the clients they want. It's honestly so trivial and uninvasive of a regulatory matter it's ridiculous. We're stuck in the 19th century railroad industry.
So, someone (who?) comes out with a standard, and then everyone just freezes capabilities then? Nothing evolves? Or if it does, it does so very unequally? Already in this announcement is the non-transfer of Live Photos because presumably Google doesn't support it. Apparently they also have a 20k per album cap, which at that point you get different behavior than you're expecting. These are just a few examples of where…
>So, someone (who?) comes out with a standard, and then everyone just freezes capabilities then? Nothing evolves?
Hopefully yes. Most "progress" is towards worse services and more user data minining and ads.
But if needed, they can always innovate. But they'd still have to be able to export to the standard format (even if it can hold less than their full features).
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>and then everyone just freezes capabilities then? Nothing evolves? Or if it does, it does so very unequally? every client provider can do whatever they want, that'd be the beauty of it. Someone could write a stripped down, privacy respecting Facebook client and charge users five bucks instead of running ads, if that's what users want. Someone could offer a chronological news-feed free of algorithmic meddling, or one…
I think you missed an important link here: opening the API is not the same as making a good standard. The latter tends to take years. The former... Well, Google internal APIs often have minor changes every couple weeks. And the standard of documentation is more or less "go read the code". Opening those would not be useful. I don't know if Facebook is any better. But their motto is "move fast and break things", so I'm…
don't forget that there will be competition on the protocols as well, I'm not just arguing for protocols as a means for more innovation on the client side, but also more competition on the backend itself. If data becomes portable, which is one side effect of protocols, competition on standards itself intensifies. So if Google and Facebook are bad stewards of their APIs, there is room for competition to emerge. Google does stuff that sucks on their end? Use existing APIs to migrate over to dropbox or whatever, tell your users. In an open market there is an incentive for good standards.
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#268What, so Google can just go ahead and delete them?
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#269Just give us a ‘download all’ button with the ability to resume in the event of a failure. RSync has been around for a long time why reinvent the wheel for every different service. Welcome to Modern tech - constantly reinventing (square) wheel
Rsync, the command line even, is familiar to vanishingly small slice of the Apple user base.
It’s amazing how out of touch developers on HN are from the average Apple user. Completely, utterly, impossibly out of touch with reality.
Try to imagine proposing a project like this to the internal teams at Apple and being asked “Who is this for!?”
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#270> Only the most recent edit of the photo is transferred and not the original version. Duplicates appear as just one photo.
This is actually a dealbreaker. When I edit a photo, I expect the service to store both the original and the edited version, so that I can revert the edit or just look at the original version straight from the camera at any time. I have actually went back and looked at old edited photos I took, and found the edits to be way too heavy handed (too much contrast, too much saturation, etc) than I'd prefer today. One's taste as a photographer grows and changes.