Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

Post by camiller » Wed, Jun 08, 2011, 6:16 PM UTC

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The Pentegon is not under market pressure to be efficient or turn a profit. They don't even get audited.

> The Pentegon [sic; Pentagon] is not under market pressure to be efficient or turn a profit. They don't even get audited. The GAO [1] does something close to auditing - although the Pentagon's financial statements aren't in the kind of shape that they even can be audited (something the GAO and DOD are working on). [2] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_Accountability_Offic... [2] http://www.federaltimes.com…

Post by camiller » Wed, Jun 08, 2011, 6:20 PM UTC

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Has Apple found a way to make the sun shine from the North? Otherwise I think there will be rooms that are better than others in the round spaceship, too.

As the sun wanders across the sky throughout the day and year, every office will have some time spent in direct sun and other times in the shade. I'd probably choose the south side if I could so I could get extra sun in the winter.

Post by ajross » Wed, Jun 08, 2011, 6:41 PM UTC

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I work in a small office park located quite similarly on a grassy field locked entirely by some freeways and other large roads, though the buildings here are cheap and ugly, but even if they weren't, it'd still totally suck. It's isolated, not a part of the city, essentially, it's just a large parking lot (most of which is below the ground, but that doesn't really change anything). It's quite disappointing. Maybe it'…

I worked at a place in Santa Monica called the Water Garden and it did seem isolated. And seeing cities like NYC and Taipei and even downtown Ann Arbor, I realize the benefits of new urbanism. However, I wonder if there is a new model emerging here in next generation corporate work centers. Buildings will get so large that they are act as their own cities, creating space that can be returned to ecological use. Such b…

Post by ajross » Wed, Jun 08, 2011, 6:45 PM UTC

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A bit of Silly Valley lore: Go graph "Company builds a new campus" against "Company stock falls like a rock." Atari, 1983. Apple, 1991. Sun (both times, I forget the years). SGI, 1990s. Various other companies (I forget which, it's been a while). It's like the hubris builds up to the point where the company is in a natural position to say, "Hey, we need a new campus," and the Gods decide that a little humiliation is…

Post by jfb » Wed, Jun 08, 2011, 7:21 PM UTC

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I find it extremely interesting that they'll be using natural gas as their primary energy source for the campus and using the electrical grid as their backup. Is this really cost effective? Are many businesses doing this?

Isn't the electrical grid down there a bit undersized, and in need of improvement anyway? I'm in Vancouver, BC, so I don't know for sure, but I keep seeing news stories about rolling blackouts fairly often. If that's the case, then it seems to me that relying on something other than the grid would be a smart move.