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Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by officemonkey » Wed, Jun 08, 2011, 11:18 AM UTC

latch wrote: post #59

sjwright wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lots of apricot trees... perhaps the odd McIntosh Apple? [1] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McIntosh_%28apple%29

I grew up in Ontario, where McIntosh are king (and deliciously awesome!). I was surprised, when I moved, that a lot of people didn't know that the MacIntosh computer was actually named after this apple (trademark, or something, prevented them from using "McIntosh")

It was probably the trademark for McIntosh amplifiers (http://www.mcintoshlabs.com/us/Pages/Home.aspx).

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by officemonkey » Wed, Jun 08, 2011, 11:22 AM UTC

thematt wrote: post #25

I find it extremely interesting that they'll be using natural gas as their primary energy source for the campus and using the electrical grid as their backup. Is this really cost effective? Are many businesses doing this?

If you have a supply of Natural Gas: it's probably not the cheapest way to get power, but apparently they're working on a whole passive solar thing, so they might not need much for HVAC. It might be a good thing from a power availability standpoint. California is prone to earthquakes and a computer design office without power is pretty much a closed office.

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by joelhaasnoot » Wed, Jun 08, 2011, 11:47 AM UTC

whalesalad wrote: post #22

amirrustam wrote: post #11

That council is so embarrassing.

Seriously the questions they asked were just ridiculous.

I thought the same way. Not only the Wifi but also the question about safety. Is it just me or is there a strict state/federal building code for that kinda thing? And mentioning a cement plant? Apple isn't dumb if they hire top architects that's something they'd have realized. They really acted like clowns if you ask me...

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by billybob » Wed, Jun 08, 2011, 11:59 AM UTC

bgarbiak wrote: post #50

The project looks like a literal approach to the walled garden idea.

Your comment wins for entertainment value. :)

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by hugh3 » Wed, Jun 08, 2011, 12:09 PM UTC

Steko wrote: post #62

Just for perspective: Proposed Appleplex: 1.4 mil sq ft (?), 12-13k employees Pentagon: 6.5 mil sq ft (3.7 mil for offices), 26k employees Empire State Building: 2.8 mil sq ft, 21k (?) employees

Now I'm curious -- what's in the other 2.8 million square feet of the Pentagon?

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by dpatru » Wed, Jun 08, 2011, 12:11 PM UTC

Steko wrote: post #62

Just for perspective: Proposed Appleplex: 1.4 mil sq ft (?), 12-13k employees Pentagon: 6.5 mil sq ft (3.7 mil for offices), 26k employees Empire State Building: 2.8 mil sq ft, 21k (?) employees

The Pentegon is not under market pressure to be efficient or turn a profit. They don't even get audited.

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by clinton » Wed, Jun 08, 2011, 12:12 PM UTC

flyt wrote: post #2

Really, really nice looking building and landscaping. Why keep the IL1 campus, instead of just moving everybody into a slightly larger mothership in 2015?

I suspect it would make a pretty awesome skunkworks, hidden away from the glitz of the new main campus.

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by hugh3 » Wed, Jun 08, 2011, 12:12 PM UTC

flyt wrote: post #2

Really, really nice looking building and landscaping. Why keep the IL1 campus, instead of just moving everybody into a slightly larger mothership in 2015?

Just because they've got money to burn doesn't mean they want to burn money. They own Infinite Loop, and they'd have a hard time finding a buyer.

Besides, moving everybody in the entire company into a new building sounds like a major pain and a disruption to operations.

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by hugh3 » Wed, Jun 08, 2011, 12:15 PM UTC

6ren wrote: post #56

vladd wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Au contraire, Steve had his share of nasty events dealing with bureaucracy, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackling_House .

Sounds like UOH and the court were against it, not the council.

Also it's not in Cupertino. Woodside can easily afford to lose Steve Jobs, but Cupertino can't.

Re: Steve Jobs Presents His Ideas For A New Apple Campus

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Post by pedrokost » Wed, Jun 08, 2011, 12:15 PM UTC

6ren wrote: post #55

daimyoyo wrote: post #51

I understand that Apple is a very important company to Cupertino, but I've never need a city counsel so lovestruck at a meeting. They should just give him a rubber stamp for whatever he wants to do.

I thought the question about traffic was good - there will be congestion, with so many people gather in one place. I'm surprised that Jobs attended - the project must be very important to him personally, and he didn't want the slightest risk of it being derailed.

You are wrong. Previously the place was used by HW, with some 9k employes. There will only be a 3k increase in number of workers, which as jobs said is about 20% more people.

Sure, 20% is noticeable, but one should analyse the roads and connections to the campus to know how noticeable will those 20% more traffic be.