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Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

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Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

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Post by PurpleFoxy »

the_af wrote: post #60
wittyreference wrote: post #31

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The real earning power of minimum wage (aka, the standard teenage job) has declined by, what, 70% since the 70s? If it's more expensive, in real terms, to have a car, to rent a hotel room, to go out, then yes, it's going to be more difficult to get laid.

You can have sex while living with your parents, no car or hotel rooms needed. Not having money to go out might be a problem to meet people, true. Note that in many countries, teenagers owning cars (and related activities) are not as prevalent as in the US. When I was a teenager, almost nobody I knew owned a car, and we all used public transportation, so there was no (dating) car culture around this.

There is a difference between “you can” and “you will bother to when there are plenty of easier and equally enjoyable things to do.”

Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

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Post by jfengel »

ragnese wrote: post #32
shams93 wrote: post #12

The key is more people forced to live with parents this doesn't just effect young people 78% of GenX are still forced to live at home. We have a society that is profoundly broken in so many ways.

Do you have a source for that 78% number? GenX is old. A genXer "living at home" seems to me to be more likely "genXers are taking care of their elderly parents (boomers)".

GenX is old.

Gee, thanks.

/old

Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

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Post by bradlys »

volkk wrote: post #204
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #184

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How can you look at a system you had to constantly gamify and say that it was a positive experience?

because i understand it's not perfect, and probably never will be. so i adapted. i think all of the positive experiences that i had outweighed all of the negative. that's all there really is to it for me. it also allowed me to meet my now gf. something i've noticed from people that didn't have much luck on these apps is that they fall into two buckets. unfortunately for some, it's really tough since they might not ha…

This also varies a lot on market. You're in NYC - not Man Jose.

Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

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Post by thefz »

throwaway8581 wrote: post #26

Many comments are ignoring the most important aspect. The decline is almost all among men not women: > Using a slightly different age range and time frame, Ueda et al. (2020) found that the percentage of sexually inactive men ages 18 to 24 increased from 18.9 percent in 2000–2002 to 30.9 percent in 2016–2018, and the percentage of sexually inactive young women increased from 15.1 percent to 19.1 percent over the same…

Still it is genes doing what genes do, only sped up 10x due to the technology being used.

Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

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Post by ragnese »

jfengel wrote: post #232
ragnese wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have a source for that 78% number? GenX is old. A genXer "living at home" seems to me to be more likely "genXers are taking care of their elderly parents (boomers)".

GenX is old. Gee, thanks. /old

:p

I'm not that far behind GenX. But it's definitely shocking to see someone claim that 78% of a generation that is over 40 years old is still "living at home"!

Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

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Post by jjj1232 »

PurpleFoxy wrote: post #230
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #222

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> The part about it being easier if you're looking for a life partner is not true in my experience since most young women on dating apps will just assume that any man on there just wants sex and is lying if he says otherwise. Maybe this didn't come across well, but I specifically don't recommend using dating apps ever . Meeting someone in real life that fits those criteria is a matter of being places where people are…

I know this doesn’t apply to most, but as a gay person, I think apps are probably the easiest way to find someone since you can’t just hang around places and try to meet people.

I mostly agree, but that’s not always been the case, and it’s something we can change! The US has become more atomized in the last 40 or so years (by design). We need more public spaces, community organizations, and general in-person connection (post-pandemic obv) to solve it.

Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

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Post by toomuchredbull »

devchix wrote: post #195
valbaca wrote: post #189

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I expected the redpill to be popular on HN but this is just absurd and disgusting. "The bottom of the male market has just fallen out completely." It's not a market. People aren't commodities. "you could be the only one available or could woo women through other qualities." Isn't this just the "last man on the earth" respun as "last guy at the bar?" Since when has there been a shortage of guys at bars?

Heh. For this reason I avoid HN threads having to do with gender and sex. There's a florid streak of redpill-ism that converges on these threads. Last week someone used "carousel" unironically. In this thread, "hypergamy". My bingo card is waiting for "Chad". Run away, quick!

Obviously red pill can be taken too far, but I haven't been convinced that the basic ideology of it is wrong in any meaningful way. Have you ever seen it debunked? To me this is evidence of it. I'm thankfully married but it does seem worrisome out there.

Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

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Post by the_af »

PurpleFoxy wrote: post #231
the_af wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can have sex while living with your parents, no car or hotel rooms needed. Not having money to go out might be a problem to meet people, true. Note that in many countries, teenagers owning cars (and related activities) are not as prevalent as in the US. When I was a teenager, almost nobody I knew owned a car, and we all used public transportation, so there was no (dating) car culture around this.

There is a difference between “you can” and “you will bother to when there are plenty of easier and equally enjoyable things to do.”

I know I did bother. Sex is very interesting when you're a teenager.

Like I said, other countries don't have the same car-centric culture of the US. We've been managing to successfully have sex -- and find sex interesting -- without such an early access to cars!

Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

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Post by jjj1232 »

WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #175
scarmig wrote: post #163

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As a bisexual guy, I will throw in a second confirming anecdote. Theories of sex decreasing because of men being left out of the economy, the secular decrease in testosterone, men being addicted to video games and porn, etc. have to grapple with the likelihood that casual sex hasn't decreased among men-who-have-sex-with-men but rather increased. If that were confirmed, then why are men-who-have-sex-with-women in part…

The answer could be that women are just choosing better men in the apps and just becoming the 13th girl in his roster.

Can we stop using verbiage like “better” men? Attractiveness isn’t a linear scale from 1-10, and it’s harmful to perpetuate that myth. It’s multi dimensional and unique to each person.

Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

testfoobar wrote: post #225
quacked wrote: post #46

Modern casual sexual encounters are assessed purely on subjective ratings of the opposite party's sexual attractiveness (secondary sexual characteristics, behavior, social status, etc.). Furthermore, constant saturation into the full range of these behaviors and characteristics across humanity through the internet and dating applications creates a endless "could I get a better mate?" feedback loop in the minds of bot…

It is absolutely not true that men who succeed are "tremendous specimens". Sure - some are. But the vast majority are not. It is an erroneous and harmful conclusion to decide that "tremendous specimens" are hoarding all the sex. This false conclusion prevents young men from seeing the actual reality that attraction is multi-faceted and multi-dimensional. I know any number of guys who are not tremendous specimens who…

> This false conclusion prevents young men from seeing the actual reality that attraction is multi-faceted and multi-dimensional.

The thing is that nowadays the expectation is that you date using an app, and the apps are absolutely 100% one dimensional single-faceted gamified systems. Ideally the solution is to stop using apps, but the problem people run into there is that they don't really know how to interact any other way because they never learned.

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