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Re: Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google

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The much more specific full title of the post is less wrong. "Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google Search and Google Chrome on both mobile and desktop"

Less wrong but still false.

Re: Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google

#23

Headline is a bit rich, since duckduckgo exists (and Bing/Microsoft if you really stretch it). I get the point though -- duckduckgo doesn't provide a browser. But I'm guessing Brave doesn't provide hosted email service (Gmail), file and document hosting (Google Drive and Docs) so the analogy breaks down either way. That snark being said, I do want more privacy on the web -- so yay Brave!

Do we know if DDG passes through every query on demand, or does it have a caching layer or something where popular queries only hit Microsoft once a day?

Bing search API terms of use do not allow caching [0].

"You must use results you obtain through the Services only in Internet Search Experiences (as defined in the use and display requirements) and must not cache or copy results. "

But they may have a special agreement in place due to the number of searches happening on DDG (100 million + daily [1]). They're larger than Bing in many countries.

[0] - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/bing/apis/legal

[1] - https://duckduckgo.com/traffic

Re: Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google

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Current title "Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google" seems quite misleading since there are plenty of private alternatives to Google (search engine) already ? Especially for english speaking programming and news etc. searches, https://duckduckgo.com is really good.

DuckDuckGo uses bing for search.

You can choose what DuckDuckGo uses for search, including anonymous proxying of search queries to Google.

Re: Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google

#28

The much more specific full title of the post is less wrong. "Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google Search and Google Chrome on both mobile and desktop"

That's technically probably true but not a lot better. DuckDuckGo is a private alternative search engine and they already have a mobile browser, so literally the only part that makes it work is "and alternative to Chrome on desktop". You can claim that DDG doesn't count because it uses bing for some of its backend (not exclusively, they do run their own crawler plus other sources IIRC), but then I get to throw out the Brave browser since it's a Blink ... actually, more than just using blink, isn't it outright a Chromium fork even for the frontend?

Re: Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DuckDuckGo uses bing for search.

You can choose what DuckDuckGo uses for search, including anonymous proxying of search queries to Google.

where can we do this? All searches result in "DuckDuck vs Google" , how ddg is better etc.

Re: Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Private Search [1] works well too. . That said, Brave is an awesome company headed by someone I look up to greatly. I'm definitely optimistic about their search product. [1] https://private.sh/

I disagree with the decisions of Brave. I recently uninstalled the browser on my phone when it kept prompting me to enable crypto wallets and other things I don't care about. I just want a better alternative to Chrome. Brave's obsession with crypto will be the death of them.

I've never had such an issue.

The only way I am able to avoid youtube ads on mobile is by using brave browser.

Also i'm very sure all the nuisances you describe can be disabled.

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