Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google • Hacker News Board

Re: Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google

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Post by alangibson » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 4:13 PM UTC

The much more specific full title of the post is less wrong.

"Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google Search and Google Chrome on both mobile and desktop"

Re: Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google

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Post by vertis » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 4:13 PM UTC

imwillofficial wrote: post #10

Define "private"

Definite "alternative" as well :)

Pretty sure Brave is built on Chromium which might not have Google embedded, but it's still Google owned.

Re: Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google

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Post by yammajr » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 4:18 PM UTC

blocked_again wrote: post #8

elnygren wrote: post #5

Current title "Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google" seems quite misleading since there are plenty of private alternatives to Google (search engine) already ? Especially for english speaking programming and news etc. searches, https://duckduckgo.com is really good.

DuckDuckGo uses bing for search.

From what I understand, DDG uses bing as a primary source, but they also pull data from numerous other sources, including their own crawler.

https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/so...

Re: Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google

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Post by vertis » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 4:19 PM UTC

elnygren wrote: post #5

Current title "Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google" seems quite misleading since there are plenty of private alternatives to Google (search engine) already ? Especially for english speaking programming and news etc. searches, https://duckduckgo.com is really good.

startpage.com as well.

Re: Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 4:20 PM UTC

imwillofficial wrote: post #10

Define "private"

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Re: Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google

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Post by rasengan » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 4:22 PM UTC

elnygren wrote: post #5

Current title "Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google" seems quite misleading since there are plenty of private alternatives to Google (search engine) already ? Especially for english speaking programming and news etc. searches, https://duckduckgo.com is really good.

Private Search [1] works well too. . That said, Brave is an awesome company headed by someone I look up to greatly. I'm definitely optimistic about their search product.

[1] https://private.sh/

Re: Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google

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Post by Daho0n » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 4:23 PM UTC

vertis wrote: post #14

elnygren wrote: post #5

Current title "Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google" seems quite misleading since there are plenty of private alternatives to Google (search engine) already ? Especially for english speaking programming and news etc. searches, https://duckduckgo.com is really good.

startpage.com as well.

Now owned by an advertisement / tracking company. No thanks.

Re: Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google

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Post by tlackemann » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 4:24 PM UTC

rasengan wrote: post #16

elnygren wrote: post #5

Current title "Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google" seems quite misleading since there are plenty of private alternatives to Google (search engine) already ? Especially for english speaking programming and news etc. searches, https://duckduckgo.com is really good.

Private Search [1] works well too. . That said, Brave is an awesome company headed by someone I look up to greatly. I'm definitely optimistic about their search product. [1] https://private.sh/

I disagree with the decisions of Brave. I recently uninstalled the browser on my phone when it kept prompting me to enable crypto wallets and other things I don't care about. I just want a better alternative to Chrome.

Brave's obsession with crypto will be the death of them.

Re: Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google

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Post by mikepurvis » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 4:26 PM UTC

malthejorgensen wrote: post #4

Headline is a bit rich, since duckduckgo exists (and Bing/Microsoft if you really stretch it). I get the point though -- duckduckgo doesn't provide a browser. But I'm guessing Brave doesn't provide hosted email service (Gmail), file and document hosting (Google Drive and Docs) so the analogy breaks down either way. That snark being said, I do want more privacy on the web -- so yay Brave!

Do we know if DDG passes through every query on demand, or does it have a caching layer or something where popular queries only hit Microsoft once a day?

Re: Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google

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Post by nealdotpy » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 4:26 PM UTC

I use Brave and DuckDuckGo (bing) as my primary coupled search engine.

However, sometimes when I am trying to find resources on a particular issue/library/framework, I have to invoke :g (google search) in order to find those results; otherwise, thy're absent from the DDG searches.

Until this is addressed, the search really won't be that competitive, unless this is some weird niche thing that I think is more widespread than it is?