Earlier quoted context omitted.
And certainly there was no such thing as backroom abortions, bastard sons, and the world's oldest profession, right?
All of those things occurred at much smaller percentages than they do today. Abortions especially. They also weren’t seen as the primary purpose of sex. Today, if you say something like “Sex is important and should only be done between people that are getting married, since it correlates with lower divorce rates”, most people will think you’re strange.
Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?
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#102The key is more people forced to live with parents this doesn't just effect young people 78% of GenX are still forced to live at home. We have a society that is profoundly broken in so many ways.
You can live with your parents and still have sex. It isn't weird or anything, unless you try it on the couch...
Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?
#103The key is more people forced to live with parents this doesn't just effect young people 78% of GenX are still forced to live at home. We have a society that is profoundly broken in so many ways.
> profoundly broken Well, it's different than they way it was when I grew up, but I don't know if kids living with their parents necessarily indicates a "broken" society: humans more or less lived that way for millenia successfully until around the time of the industrial revolution.
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#104The answers, from the abstract seem to be "young people" are living at home more, drinking less and gaming more than they used to. "Among young women, the decline in the frequency of drinking alcohol explains about one quarter of the drop in the propensity to have casual sex. Among young men, declines in drinking frequency, an increase in computer gaming, and the growing percentage who coreside with their parents all…
Personal anecdote: when I was single in a big city, I stayed at home playing games on Saturday because I had no social group with single people in it and no place to hang out other than a bar. Bar culture always sucked (and still sucks) and I wasn't pretty enough for Tinder. The music scene I was involved with was fading out and I wasn't part of the core clique anyway. Would I have liked to go out and meet people to…
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#105> Among young men, declines in drinking frequency, an increase in computer gaming, and the growing percentage who coreside with their parents all contribute significantly to the decline in casual sex.
> The authors find no evidence that trends in young adults’ economic circumstances, internet use, or television watching explain the recent decline in casual sexual activity.
Seems like co-residing with parents and declining drinking frequency (which I'd think of as just more care-free behavior) is a direct result of trends in economic circumstances.
And in the paper, they lay out some pretty good hypothesis:
> Many youth now work multiple jobs as part of the gig economic (Katz and Krueger 2019), which in turn might limit the amount of time available for casual sexual encounters (Lyons et al. 2014). High levels of debt, particularly student loan debt, might also lead to increased work hours and thus constrain the time available for engaging in casual sex.
Of course, this is what they set out to test, but it seems like they do find something to suggest that it's true, as it contributes to 10%:
> As shown in model 4, young men who live with their parents are significantly less likely than their counterparts who live independently to report having had casual sex in the past month, and controlling for parent coresidence reduces the coefficient for survey year from –.073 to –.067.
> The estimated odds that young men who live with their parents engage in casual sex are only 63 percent of the corresponding odds for young men who live independently (e−.457 = .63)
Co-residence and not being financially stable seem pretty tightly correlated to me. Feels like they're missing the forest for the trees -- you know what you do when you're not making enough money? Live with your parents, Stay in and maybe play video games instead of going to the pub and trying to impress and woo someone of the opposite sex.
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#106Many comments are ignoring the most important aspect. The decline is almost all among men not women: > Using a slightly different age range and time frame, Ueda et al. (2020) found that the percentage of sexually inactive men ages 18 to 24 increased from 18.9 percent in 2000–2002 to 30.9 percent in 2016–2018, and the percentage of sexually inactive young women increased from 15.1 percent to 19.1 percent over the same…
Same situation is happening in America, we just don’t call it polygamy because it has been reduced entirely to the physical act.
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#107This young woman was flexible about casual sex, and didn't understand why her latest boyfriend was troubled that it'd only been 2 weeks since her last boyfriend. I told my passenger how women fundamentally get to choose who they have sex with (to screen their suitors), whereas men 'get lucky'. The evolutionary reason is that women have all the consequences of a pregnancy.
I also have an un-posted collection of anecdotes about "the predicaments of girls and boys", about women who were dissatisfied with their relationships. Women have to screen, but aren't trained in how to motivate their romantic interests to behave up to their standards.
From the submission:
> One of the strongest predictors of the likelihood of engaging in casual sex is alcohol consumption. [...] Because there is some evidence that alcohol consumption increases young women’s more than young men’s odds of engaging in casual sex, it is possible that the decline in alcohol consumption explains more of the decline in young women’s than in young men’s propensity to have sex outside of a committed romantic relationship.
Alcohol consumption is rather important to help women suppress their naturally-protective inclinations to avoid 'hooking up' with any man who expresses an interest in them. Other female passengers, whom I'm still in touch with, have told me of how they were very selective in their relationships...
Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?
#108Many comments are ignoring the most important aspect. The decline is almost all among men not women: > Using a slightly different age range and time frame, Ueda et al. (2020) found that the percentage of sexually inactive men ages 18 to 24 increased from 18.9 percent in 2000–2002 to 30.9 percent in 2016–2018, and the percentage of sexually inactive young women increased from 15.1 percent to 19.1 percent over the same…
I don't know the real reason, but if I was to guess, the most obvious one is that there are so many interesting things to do, learn, engage in, that making considerable effort in order to have sex simply doesn't seem worth it, that's all.
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#109Also I read somewhere that only about 50% of men that have lived ever reproduced. And in societies with an unequal distribution, eventually devolves into being more violent. As the "incels", try to better their lot for reproduction.
Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?
#110Many comments are ignoring the most important aspect. The decline is almost all among men not women: > Using a slightly different age range and time frame, Ueda et al. (2020) found that the percentage of sexually inactive men ages 18 to 24 increased from 18.9 percent in 2000–2002 to 30.9 percent in 2016–2018, and the percentage of sexually inactive young women increased from 15.1 percent to 19.1 percent over the same…
you sound bitter