Live data from Hacker News

China's scheme to transfer Uighurs into work

bbc.com

21–30 of 64 posts

Re: China's scheme to transfer Uighurs into work

#22
post #7

[flagged]

China really is more like fascism than Marxism in my opinion. I occasionally follow some communists on Twitter, and they are surprisingly pro-China even though China is a far cry from their Marxist ideals.

It really is. I was just recently reading that the Chinese government is actually having a big problem with young people taking communism seriously and starting to ask questions about the massive sweatshops and inequality in the country, which are not things that are supposed to happen with the communist party in charge.

Re: China's scheme to transfer Uighurs into work

#23
post #7

[flagged]

China really is more like fascism than Marxism in my opinion. I occasionally follow some communists on Twitter, and they are surprisingly pro-China even though China is a far cry from their Marxist ideals.

Communism in practice is just fascism with a Marxish State-enforced ideology

Re: China's scheme to transfer Uighurs into work

#24
post #7

[flagged]

Let’s be balanced; China is not as bad as Nazi Germany. Not even close. But it is true that this soft cultural erasure that they are attempting is very evil. Lol me: let’s be balanced You: DIE APOSTATE Usually I’m the one going all nonlinear! That’s my job guys!

[flagged]

Re: China's scheme to transfer Uighurs into work

#25
post #7

[flagged]

China really is more like fascism than Marxism in my opinion. I occasionally follow some communists on Twitter, and they are surprisingly pro-China even though China is a far cry from their Marxist ideals.

It’s very interesting to me how often communism ends up looking like fascism, and yet many people are very open and tolerant of the former while absolutely petrified of the latter. Violent authoritarians concern me in general, and I take little comfort in them being left-wing, rather than right-wing, authoritarians.

EDIT: Lots of downvotes and no rebuttals. Looks like I inadvertently struck a nerve.

Re: China's scheme to transfer Uighurs into work

#26

> “Dr Adrian Zenz, a senior fellow at the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation in Washington” Adrian Zenz again. Every. Time. https://thegrayzone.com/2021/02/18/us-media-reports-chinese-...

> "a far-right Christian fundamentalist who has said he is “led by God” against China’s government, deplores homosexuality and gender equality, and has taught exclusively in evangelical theological institutions."

Re: China's scheme to transfer Uighurs into work

#27
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it did eventually lead to the break up of the USSR - without WW3 - rather than the Soviets taking over the world.

The Soviets were never in a position to overtake the world, and the idea that they were was a US misreading of the spread of communism and the influence of Soviet agitators - who showed up everywhere - as though they weren't doing exactly the same things the CIA were. The Vietnam war, for instance, was prosecuted entirely on the faulty assumption that a communist Vietnam was just going to become a subsumed extension…

Just an innocent “misreading”?

Re: China's scheme to transfer Uighurs into work

#28

> “Dr Adrian Zenz, a senior fellow at the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation in Washington” Adrian Zenz again. Every. Time. https://thegrayzone.com/2021/02/18/us-media-reports-chinese-...

I really feel like we’re not getting objective information from either side right now. We shouldn’t have people quoting idealogues like Zenz, or taking the government’s word on things either.

Re: China's scheme to transfer Uighurs into work

#29
post #7

[flagged]

China really is more like fascism than Marxism in my opinion. I occasionally follow some communists on Twitter, and they are surprisingly pro-China even though China is a far cry from their Marxist ideals.

I think the narrative that fascism and communism are "opposite ends" of some relevant spectrum are flawed. I also disagree that historically "communist" countries are truly communist/socialist, when they often maintained they lived up to certain ideals that they didn't - where does Marx promote purges, for example? Those nations are no more left/liberal than the Nazi party is socialist.

Re: China's scheme to transfer Uighurs into work

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China really is more like fascism than Marxism in my opinion. I occasionally follow some communists on Twitter, and they are surprisingly pro-China even though China is a far cry from their Marxist ideals.

It’s very interesting to me how often communism ends up looking like fascism, and yet many people are very open and tolerant of the former while absolutely petrified of the latter. Violent authoritarians concern me in general, and I take little comfort in them being left-wing, rather than right-wing, authoritarians. EDIT: Lots of downvotes and no rebuttals. Looks like I inadvertently struck a nerve.

Communism is cloaked in false promises and the US has failed to teach the youth this, so they are attracted to the lies that sell the ideology.

You can also thank Bernie Sanders and AOC for repairing the brand of socialism with their incredibly harmful rhetoric

Post reply on HN