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China really is more like fascism than Marxism in my opinion. I occasionally follow some communists on Twitter, and they are surprisingly pro-China even though China is a far cry from their Marxist ideals.
China's scheme to transfer Uighurs into work
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#12I somehow fear I will be downvoted for this, but the article highlights how it's very easy for these goods to end up in our supply chains without our knowledge: >The Huafu Textile Company is located on the edge of a grey industrial estate in the city of Huaibei, in China's eastern province of Anhui. > It was to this factory that Buzaynap, featured in the state-TV report, was sent > [ ...my own rather selective cut ..…
It did not stop Stalin and his Red Terror.
My thoughts. China will sell. Perhaps not in USA, Edit: EU (not UA), Japan, etc. But how about India, Pakistan, all African countries, all Arab countries?
They play the loooooooong game, and they are winning it. I believe that Russia's (and Russians) ideology is closed to Europe & USA's, while China is a full-on dictatorship.
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#13> The Huafu Textile Company is located on the edge of a grey industrial estate in the city of Huaibei, in China's eastern province of Anhui.
I more or less grew up in the states, but this is the exact town I was born in, and grey couldn't be a better description for it. It was a mining town when I was little, and I recall trainloads of coal being taken out of tunnels in the mountains, very West Virginia feel to it.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
It did not stop Stalin and his Red Terror.
But it did eventually lead to the break up of the USSR - without WW3 - rather than the Soviets taking over the world.
The Soviets were never in a position to overtake the world, and the idea that they were was a US misreading of the spread of communism and the influence of Soviet agitators - who showed up everywhere - as though they weren't doing exactly the same things the CIA were.
The Vietnam war, for instance, was prosecuted entirely on the faulty assumption that a communist Vietnam was just going to become a subsumed extension of the Chinese government, rather then what actually happened, which was it became communist Vietnam and continued to vigorously oppose Chinese influence, as well as ultimately becoming fairly integral to the eventual downfall of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia after the war.
The "domino effect" was American institutional panic that was encouraged because it led to policy decisions with favorable, easy domestic political consequences and huge handouts to business interests.
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#15China is not innocent by any means, but I sense some hypocrisy from those that arrogantly think they have a higher moral ground here. Pretty much every country has their own "Trail of Tears", even the progressive and almighty Canada only closed their oppressive Indian Residence school systems recently. Are we supposed to boycott everyone then, and go back to hunting and gathering?
Surely you can appreciate the distinction between countries that stopped their ethnic campaigns and those that persist, right?
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#16China is not innocent by any means, but I sense some hypocrisy from those that arrogantly think they have a higher moral ground here. Pretty much every country has their own "Trail of Tears", even the progressive and almighty Canada only closed their oppressive Indian Residence school systems recently. Are we supposed to boycott everyone then, and go back to hunting and gathering?
This is such a bad take. Just because something bad happened in a countries history doesn’t mean it excludes them from speaking up about human rights atrocities for the remainder of their existence.
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Let’s be balanced; China is not as bad as Nazi Germany. Not even close. But it is true that this soft cultural erasure that they are attempting is very evil.
Lol me: let’s be balanced
You: DIE APOSTATE
Usually I’m the one going all nonlinear! That’s my job guys!
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#18China is not innocent by any means, but I sense some hypocrisy from those that arrogantly think they have a higher moral ground here. Pretty much every country has their own "Trail of Tears", even the progressive and almighty Canada only closed their oppressive Indian Residence school systems recently. Are we supposed to boycott everyone then, and go back to hunting and gathering?
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#19How can we make sure the products we're buying are Uighur labor free? I don't want to contribute to this.
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#20China is not innocent by any means, but I sense some hypocrisy from those that arrogantly think they have a higher moral ground here. Pretty much every country has their own "Trail of Tears", even the progressive and almighty Canada only closed their oppressive Indian Residence school systems recently. Are we supposed to boycott everyone then, and go back to hunting and gathering?
This is a tired argument. It’s not hypocritical or unreasonable to expect better behavior out of governments around the world. And certainly in the case of China, it’s an old enough civilization that we should be able to expect its barbaric Trail of Tears days to be long past.