Linux Desktop on Apple Silicon/M1 in Practice

Post by Vogtinator » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 1:01 PM UTC

my123 wrote: post #44

chung1905 wrote: post #33

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I'm curious, is there any reason that ARM doesn't have a standard platform? Or they are working on that?

It does, and it's called Arm SystemReady. UEFI + ACPI is required on Arm if you want to boot Windows or RHEL/CentOS, which do not even try to boot on non-standardised 64-bit Arm systems.

Post by STRML » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 1:12 PM UTC

uncledave wrote: post #12

apichat wrote: post #11

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Linus Torvalds: ARM has a lot to learn from the PC : "I think ARM is a very promising platform," he said. "At the same time, the ARM community has never had the notion of a standard platform. ARM never had the PC." https://www.networkworld.com/article/2220438/linus-torvalds-...

We did actually but Acorn canned it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebe_(computer)

Post by anthk » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 1:27 PM UTC

gspr wrote: post #42

vetinari wrote: post #28

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Linux desktop environment runs fine with 4GB.

I think the people who claim that 16 GB isn't enough are insane, but it should be said: at 4 GB it does become a bit problematic to both keep browsers with a bunch of tabs open and do other things smoothly. If we keep modern website hogs out of the picture, I completely agree with you. I tally about 500-1000 MB doing my job – if I can close the browsers that I do admittedly need to read documentation.

        --ignore-gpu-blocklist
        --enable-gpu-rasterization
        #--enable-zero-copy
        --disable-sync-preferences
        --disable-reading-from-canvas
        --disable-smooth-scrolling
        --wm-window-animations-disabled
        --enable-low-end-device-mode

Post by rubyist5eva » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 1:32 PM UTC

aodaki wrote: post #24

cozzyd wrote: post #3

I imagine memory will be quite constrained here for a lot of M1 systems.

Indeed, it is. 16GB is too constrained even for native Linux desktop environment.

Post by skohan » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 1:48 PM UTC

OldHand2018 wrote: post #64

skohan wrote: post #57

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What do you need 32GB for? Video editing? ML training on CPU? I have to imagine this is a minority.

If someone needs 32GB then they need 32GB. The M1 is Apple’s low-end chip, currently available only on their cheapest computers. It’s like complaining that a Corolla can’t keep up with a Ferrari on a race track. The most charitable interpretation is that the person doesn’t understand the market position of the two items.