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Re: Linux Desktop on Apple Silicon/M1 in Practice

#11

Why is this such a big issue? Can't you install any ARM Linux distro from a flash drive? Does that not work? I get that device drivers may not be perfect for any new laptop, but it should mostly work.

Linus Torvalds: ARM has a lot to learn from the PC :

"I think ARM is a very promising platform," he said. "At the same time, the ARM community has never had the notion of a standard platform. ARM never had the PC."

https://www.networkworld.com/article/2220438/linus-torvalds-...

Re: Linux Desktop on Apple Silicon/M1 in Practice

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post #11

Why is this such a big issue? Can't you install any ARM Linux distro from a flash drive? Does that not work? I get that device drivers may not be perfect for any new laptop, but it should mostly work.

Linus Torvalds: ARM has a lot to learn from the PC : "I think ARM is a very promising platform," he said. "At the same time, the ARM community has never had the notion of a standard platform. ARM never had the PC." https://www.networkworld.com/article/2220438/linus-torvalds-...

We did actually but Acorn canned it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebe_(computer)

Re: Linux Desktop on Apple Silicon/M1 in Practice

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Can’t you just run X11 on the Mac and Linux in a vm?

You could but then you would still be in the MacOS desktop environment. I think he doesn’t just want to run Linux applications but instead wants the Linux desktop environment.

Desktop environments on Linux basically just draw into a full-screen X window, don't they? (And then the programs you run are children of that root window.) I wonder how hard it would be to hack up XQuartz to support that...

Re: Linux Desktop on Apple Silicon/M1 in Practice

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could but then you would still be in the MacOS desktop environment. I think he doesn’t just want to run Linux applications but instead wants the Linux desktop environment.

Desktop environments on Linux basically just draw into a full-screen X window, don't they? (And then the programs you run are children of that root window.) I wonder how hard it would be to hack up XQuartz to support that...

You wouldn't even have to hack it up. There's an option in XQuartz to make it run full-screen, at which point you can run a standard X11 DE.

The main issue with XQuartz nowadays is that it doesn't support Retina displays in windowed mode. Everything runs pixel-doubled by default.

Re: Linux Desktop on Apple Silicon/M1 in Practice

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could but then you would still be in the MacOS desktop environment. I think he doesn’t just want to run Linux applications but instead wants the Linux desktop environment.

Desktop environments on Linux basically just draw into a full-screen X window, don't they? (And then the programs you run are children of that root window.) I wonder how hard it would be to hack up XQuartz to support that...

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Re: Linux Desktop on Apple Silicon/M1 in Practice

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linus Torvalds: ARM has a lot to learn from the PC : "I think ARM is a very promising platform," he said. "At the same time, the ARM community has never had the notion of a standard platform. ARM never had the PC." https://www.networkworld.com/article/2220438/linus-torvalds-...

We did actually but Acorn canned it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebe_(computer)

That's not what he means by PC. He means an open standard that anyone can build against with comparability between products.
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