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Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide analyses of 475K people
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Re: Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide analyses of 475K people
#12The title seems to muddle the conclusion.
higher BMI accounted for a substantial proportion of these increased risks suggesting that residual confounding or mediation by adiposity might account for some of these remaining associations.
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#13Re: Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide analyses of 475K people
#14The term "positive association" makes it hard to parse. The results state: "most of the positive associations observed for meat consumption and health risks were substantially attenuated after adjustment for body mass index (BMI)", but the Conclusion says: > Higher unprocessed red meat, processed meat, and poultry meat consumption was associated with higher risks of several common conditions; higher BMI accounted for…
Meatless is the new “low fat” boogieman.
Coincidentally, industrial food producers have discovered that it is cheaper and more profitable to sell ground up peas and plant oil as “meat”, water rinsed through oats as milk, etc.
All of the “problems” with meat are market issues. Animal welfare issues are due to industrial farming practices, which will get worse if the industry declines. Land use and environmental issues are all about the market conditions, which are literally putting sustainable meat and dairy business out of business.
The “solutions” of fake substitutes are PR driven narratives.
Re: Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide analyses of 475K people
#15So... don't eat processed meat. Doesn't this just correlate with what we already knew?
Do you even find unprocessed meat these days?
I take processed meat to mean deli meats, bacon, and cured ham. Additives are one of the things that make them damaging.
Is a filet mignon, ground beef, or chick thighs processed? Sure. But i don't think that is what we're talking about here.
Re: Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide analyses of 475K people
#16So it seems that high BMI / adiposity is still the leading cause for those 25 adverse health outcomes and that high meat consumption is simply correlated with high total energy consumption. It will be interesting to see if WHO revise its recommendations regarding meat consumption.
Interesting. Maybe the new rule should be "Eat red meat if you want, just don't let it make you fat".
If you eat almost exclusively red meat, and not the things that commonly go with it, it’s quite hard to get fat. Meat is very very satiating.
Re: Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide analyses of 475K people
#17So it seems that high BMI / adiposity is still the leading cause for those 25 adverse health outcomes and that high meat consumption is simply correlated with high total energy consumption. It will be interesting to see if WHO revise its recommendations regarding meat consumption.
I doubt it. The WHO recommendations are based on extensive research linking red meat consumption to increased risk of colorectal cancer. This article explores the association of meat consumption with various non-cancer conditions.
(background section describes that in more detail)
Re: Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide analyses of 475K people
#18So... don't eat processed meat. Doesn't this just correlate with what we already knew?
>Unprocessed red meat intake was associated with a higher risk of IHD (ischemic heart disease), pneumonia, diverticular disease, colon polyps, and diabetes
Lower risk of IDA (Iron deficiency anaemia), but you have a higher risk with the above five
Re: Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide analyses of 475K people
#19So it seems that high BMI / adiposity is still the leading cause for those 25 adverse health outcomes and that high meat consumption is simply correlated with high total energy consumption. It will be interesting to see if WHO revise its recommendations regarding meat consumption.
Interesting. Maybe the new rule should be "Eat red meat if you want, just don't let it make you fat".
Isn't it more "eat red meat if you want, just don't BE fat?"
I mean a person can eat a hamburger a day and still be thin, in my experience it's the fries, coke, twinkies and pop tarts and stuff that make you fat.
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#20I'm just gonna say it: epidemiological studies suck and we need something better.
Humans and their lives are just too multi-variate, even with nearly ~500k people in a study.
All you end up with are correlations – I've basically never seen a study like this that manages to demonstrate causality convincingly.