To the people illegally micro-dosing: Why would you open yourself up to the liability of committing a felony crime for a placebo effect? The risk vs reward doesn’t seem to pan out for me.
Microdosing study shows the placebo effect of taking psychelics
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#23To the people illegally micro-dosing: Why would you open yourself up to the liability of committing a felony crime for a placebo effect? The risk vs reward doesn’t seem to pan out for me.
I don’t have statistics to back this up, and it could be a reflection of the privilege of my social group.
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#24> Meanwhile, those who consumed the drugs but thought they were taking a placebo experienced no significant increase in wellbeing. It's wild that there was a part of this study in which people were told that they weren't taking a psychadelic, but they were taking a psychadelic.
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#26My drug of choice is placebo. Minimal side effects. Inexpensive. The more I use it, the better it works. Has effects on a variety of ailments, both physical and psychological. I'm surprised they don't sell branded placebo at the pharmacy - "Super Placebo - now with organic filler". I think it could be a hot seller.
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#27There is a similar effect when consuming alcoholic drinks in social settings: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11469-020-00321-0 > “Our study confirms the benefits of microdosing,..." This is really horrible phrasing since normal the normal usage of the term "benefits" in this context would mean benefits relative to a placebo. In this experiments the benefits are zero since the LSD and control pills had the…
One of the hallmarks of psychedelics is a (drug induced) sense of profundity and enlightenment. If you tell someone that they're about to have a life-changing experience, then you give them a drug that induces the feeling of a life-changing experience, it's likely that they'll walk away thinking they've had a life-changing experience and change their behavior accordingly.
I agree that their conclusion is borderline misleading. Traditional antidepressant studies also show a high placebo response rate, but approved SSRIs diverge from placebo in studies. Their success is largely measured by how far they diverge from the placebo groups.
If an SSRI study showed that the medications were identical to placebo yet concluded that the SSRIs had benefit, it would be soundly rejected. Yet when the same conclusion appears in a study about psychedelics, it seems to get a free pass. I think this speaks volumes about the current bias toward psychedelic medicine.
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#28> Meanwhile, those who consumed the drugs but thought they were taking a placebo experienced no significant increase in wellbeing. It's wild that there was a part of this study in which people were told that they weren't taking a psychadelic, but they were taking a psychadelic.
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#29> Meanwhile, those who consumed the drugs but thought they were taking a placebo experienced no significant increase in wellbeing. It's wild that there was a part of this study in which people were told that they weren't taking a psychadelic, but they were taking a psychadelic.
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#30To the people illegally micro-dosing: Why would you open yourself up to the liability of committing a felony crime for a placebo effect? The risk vs reward doesn’t seem to pan out for me.
Micro-dosing also feels quite nice. It has a major mood-brightening effect. It's the main reason I do it. I don't even think it improves work at all. But if you're happier you might do better work.