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Google-free /e/ OS is now selling preloaded phones in the US, starting at $380

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Re: Google-free /e/ OS is now selling preloaded phones in the US, starting at $380

#31

> an email fork called K-9 Mail, Say that again :) ? Tease apart I think and believe /e/ is a really great initiative, which aligns better with ecology than Fairphone does (so far). If my phone was supported I'd have switched long ago (it's a 2015 sony z5c I bought second hand 3.5 years ago).

/e/ & fairphone have a partnership. You can get a fairphone preloaded with /e/OS (in Europe & the UK): https://www.fairphone.com/en/2020/04/30/keeping-your-data-sa...

https://esolutions.shop/shop/e-os-fairphone-3/

Re: Google-free /e/ OS is now selling preloaded phones in the US, starting at $380

#32

Get a Pixel 3/4 and throw GrapheneOS on it: https://grapheneos.org/ It's the best non-Google, privacy enhanced experience you can get at the moment.

Wow, I don't see that often, but when I tried (several times) to go to that link I get: Gah. Your tab just crashed. In Firefox (85.0.1 on Ubuntu 18.04). Works fine in Opera, though, and it looks like just a wall of text so I'm not sure why FF would be unhappy.

Works for me on firefox nightly on linux.

Re: Google-free /e/ OS is now selling preloaded phones in the US, starting at $380

#34
post #27

Get a Pixel 3/4 and throw GrapheneOS on it: https://grapheneos.org/ It's the best non-Google, privacy enhanced experience you can get at the moment.

The offers of GrapheneOS and /e/ are very different. /e/ targets to be a usable alternative to a google-owned software, which includes for instance cloud storage and backup, access to third party proprietary apps, etc. While GrapheneOS is harder to use, but it does provide much better security hardening.

hey there phh; slightly tangential, but: What are your plans for phh-treble? To be honest, if you've got the bandwidth, I'd love for you to start something comparative to /e/ and CalyxOS.

With Generic Kernel Images (and APEX to an extent), do you see phh-treble likely replacing LineageOS as the preferred base for projects like /e/? Merci.

Re: Google-free /e/ OS is now selling preloaded phones in the US, starting at $380

#35
post #9

In Europe if we want a Google-free phone we just buy a Huawei.

I've only owned one Huawei phone, but it definitely had Google's software installed. (and after running some network analysis, I noticed it also phoned home to China)

I'm very interested in how do you run the said network analysis? I'm considering buying an Android again but I'd like to properly tame it by cutting off as much spy traffic as possible.

Re: Google-free /e/ OS is now selling preloaded phones in the US, starting at $380

#37

It's a fork of Android, so it's not Google-free.

yes. Anything Android based is absolutely dominated by Google. At this point it probably takes less manpower to maintain a Gnome/KDE/Lomiri based distro for your platform than Google-free Android.

Re: Google-free /e/ OS is now selling preloaded phones in the US, starting at $380

#38
post #28

> an email fork called K-9 Mail, Say that again :) ? Tease apart I think and believe /e/ is a really great initiative, which aligns better with ecology than Fairphone does (so far). If my phone was supported I'd have switched long ago (it's a 2015 sony z5c I bought second hand 3.5 years ago).

> which aligns better with ecology than Fairphone does (so far) What do you mean by that?

A refurbished phone needs less raw materials and processing than a new fairphone.

Re: Google-free /e/ OS is now selling preloaded phones in the US, starting at $380

#40

Get a Pixel 3/4 and throw GrapheneOS on it: https://grapheneos.org/ It's the best non-Google, privacy enhanced experience you can get at the moment.

Wow, I don't see that often, but when I tried (several times) to go to that link I get: Gah. Your tab just crashed. In Firefox (85.0.1 on Ubuntu 18.04). Works fine in Opera, though, and it looks like just a wall of text so I'm not sure why FF would be unhappy.

Wow indeed, same here. I don't recall seeing that for a very long time, if at all. FF85 on Ubuntu 16.04 x64
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