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Searchability really suffers in paper systems.
The search ability is one thing you will definitely want as your collection gets big. I got to know about stork-search from a post in hn and it worked very well for me, https://stork-search.net/
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#62Hey! This looks super cool. The desktop app seems fairly explicitly single-user (looks like 1 big transit file). Do you have any opinions on using these tools in general and Athens in specific to do knowledge sharing among teams? (I would imagine that needs some kind of transaction log, mostly hoping transactions commute and maybe stacking the deck with something like Pijul.) Is the answer "host it as a web service"…
Using a filesync service such as Dropbox, you can sync state across multiple clients. We have a commercial user doing this. The single transit file won't scale however, so we've started working on a transaction log just as you said. Want to make sure it's pretty robust before deploying, however, as no data loss is the first priority! https://github.com/athensresearch/athens/pull/624 To your second answer, yes and yes…
Would it be possible to deploy a web-based instance with the server handling storage and collaboration? If so, I might try my hand at packaging it for Sandstorm once that's available. Would make self-hosting Athens super easy for Sandstorm users.
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Roam has plans for offline-only storage.
Is that out of beta and working now? Also is it still only available in the $500 (?) dollar plan or what ever it was?
I am just pointing out that closed source doesn't necessarily mean 'not in control of your data'.
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Simplicity wins. Pencil and paper FTW
Searchability really suffers in paper systems.
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#65This is amazing. Until very recently the only tree structure "outliners" I found somewhat viable were Workflowy, Dynalist, Roam and Transno, all of which are proprietary. Logseq eventually added an open source option, but that it fails to keep sub trees collapsed pretty much kills it. My current favorite note applications are Dynalist and Workflowy, but during my use I have always had a bad stomach feeling about priv…
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#66Athens has been incredible for me over the past week, as someone that has bounced around using Workflowy, Dynalist, and Obsidian. The great outliner features of the first two, and the backlinking and graphing of Obsidian. My only real reservation is that files are not in Markdown. Is there a plan to address that, or is a DB central to the architecture? Currently using LogSeq because of this but eager to switch.
I am currently using Obsidian, but would love a markdown-backed Workflowy interface that I could switch to if possible.
Perhaps logseq is that app?
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Is that out of beta and working now? Also is it still only available in the $500 (?) dollar plan or what ever it was?
Nope and yes! I am just pointing out that closed source doesn't necessarily mean 'not in control of your data'.
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#70org-roam https://www.orgroam.com/
tiddlyroam https://tiddlyroam.org/
Dendron https://dendron.so/
Foam https://foambubble.github.io/foam/
Remnote https://www.remnote.io/
Obsidian https://obsidian.md/
logseq https://logseq.com/
Not an expert with them at all. I've never had a desire to dig into all their complexity, but some are pretty passionate about it.