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WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by Hammershaft »

oblio wrote: post #36
29athrowaway wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate the Windows desktop (and server). Right now I am using XFCE. Much faster than Windows, lower memory footprint and I got it to look similar to macOS to some extent. Using Windows compared to using XFCE is like pulling a stubborn donkey. No, I don't want to update, I don't want a voice assistant, I don't want absurd UIs, I don't want telemetry, I just want a goddamn menu and desktop icons.

Well, what can I say, good for you :-) >No, I don't want to update Why don't you want to update? You really should. > I don't want a voice assistant It takes less than 5 minutes to disable and hide it. > I don't want absurd UIs How do you define absurd UIs? Do you think 1 billion people using Windows are all absurd? If so, that's highly arrogant of you. > I don't want telemetry It's a bit annoying and philosophically…

> How do you define absurd UIs? Do you think 1 billion people using Windows are all absurd? If so, that's highly arrogant of you.

I think Windows is a probably the least worst desktop (not laptop!) OS right now but I would defend the parent commenter here. Windows has had the slowest and most painful UI transition I've seen in an OS, and it definitely hinders usability. Try to change certain innocuous settings in windows and you will unknowingly embark on a journey through time as you discover layers of settings still preserved in older and older UI frameworks still tucked away in deep corners of the OS.

Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by Guillaume86 »

You-Are-Right wrote: post #70

https://reclaimyourface.eu

> The biometric data used to support Windows Hello is stored on the local device only. It doesn't roam and is never sent to external devices or servers. This separation helps to stop potential attackers by providing no single collection point that an attacker could potentially compromise to steal biometric data.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/identity-p....

Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by Isthatablackgsd »

franga2000 wrote: post #38
kbumsik wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glad to see I am not the only one. Windows desktop also has a big plus: native RDP is unparalleled compared to VNC or any other Linux remote desktop.

It's true that VNC is a disaster, but RDP still feels miles behind thrid-party tech like TeamViewer. And doesn't MSFT stil cripple RDP on Home editions?

Technically MSFT disabled the RDP server feature in Home edition, meaning you can't use Windows Home as RDP host (I am not sure the proper terminology for this). The software still in there, you only can use RDP client in Win Home, not the server aspect. It is just disabled without official way of enabling it (w/o upgrading to Pro). However there is way to get it enabled in Windows Home, it need rdpwrap by stascrop. Just download the file and run it. It will get the server aspect running.

Rdpwrap by stascrop (GitHub) https://github.com/stascorp/rdpwrap/releases

Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by throwaway8581 »

jeroenhd wrote: post #59
throwaway8581 wrote: post #26

I’m going to repost this from the Mac thread: What exactly is the point of sudo/UAC these days of single-user machines? I think https://xkcd.com/1200 put it well. Anything running as an unelevated user account can access my browser sessions where it can steal my passwords, emails, other other private info. It can turn on my microphone and camera. It can read all of my documents. Those are the things I care about prot…

On Windows, it's a malware thing. Windows XP applications were designed with horrible security issues disguised as features because of it, partially causing the massive pain everybody felt when migrating to Windows Vista. Your favourite text editor could be the reason your graphics card would randomly make the screen go green, or that your flash drive didn't work, or that your system bluescreened and you'd have no id…

It’s true that the pre-UAC situation in Windows was bad, but the function of UAC was to encourage app developers to do the right thing. Raymond Chen agrees:

”UAC is not a security feature. It’s a convenience feature that acts as a forcing function to get software developers to get their act together.” https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20160816-00/?p=94...

On a single user machine, it does nothing for user security, because all of the things worth protecting, like your data, don’t require elevation anyway.

As for preventing fuckups, it prevents the wrong fuckups. Deleting my user files is a bad fuckup. A program trashing my files and emptying my bank account is a bad fuckup. Trashing my OS install, the only thing root can do that my user account can’t, is an inconvenience.

Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by WorldMaker »

Isthatablackgsd wrote: post #73
franga2000 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's true that VNC is a disaster, but RDP still feels miles behind thrid-party tech like TeamViewer. And doesn't MSFT stil cripple RDP on Home editions?

Technically MSFT disabled the RDP server feature in Home edition, meaning you can't use Windows Home as RDP host (I am not sure the proper terminology for this). The software still in there, you only can use RDP client in Win Home, not the server aspect. It is just disabled without official way of enabling it (w/o upgrading to Pro). However there is way to get it enabled in Windows Home, it need rdpwrap by stascrop.…

There is an official way to get RDP connections to Windows Home edition systems, Windows Quick Assist: https://community.windows.com/en-us/stories/windows-quick-as...

Obviously it has far more restrictions than enabling RDP on Pro systems, but that's because it's clearly designed with Home users (average consumers) in mind.

Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by franga2000 »

tester34 wrote: post #61
franga2000 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's true that VNC is a disaster, but RDP still feels miles behind thrid-party tech like TeamViewer. And doesn't MSFT stil cripple RDP on Home editions?

Is it actually miles behind? I've used RDP to work remotely and also to play some games inside Hyper-V VM and I didn't felt big difference between native

I haven't used it much lately, but a few years back I was working on a Windows Server system (whichever was the version that was basically Windows 8) and remember it being really janky (latency spikes, image artifacts, etc.) over my pathetic DSL Internet connection. Then I noticed some other admin installed TeamViewer on it so I gave it a try and it was way faster and smoother so I switched to it permanently, despite the constant annoyances because we were too cheap to pay for a license.

Admittedly, it's been almost a decade since Windows 8 (!?!), so this is a very dated experience.

Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by e12e »

detaro wrote: post #20
bsenftner wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any library like PAM in the Windows ecosystem?

Not exactly. You can create custom authentication methods and prompts, but it's architected differently. (I think Local Security Authority (LSA) and Credential Providers are the keywords to search for details)

Used to be called GINA. In addition to sibling comments, see: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/secauthn/winl...

Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by e12e »

kbumsik wrote: post #37
alexdumitru wrote: post #4

This looks great. I hate Linux desktop and Windows server, so WSL has been a blessing for me.

Glad to see I am not the only one. Windows desktop also has a big plus: native RDP is unparalleled compared to VNC or any other Linux remote desktop.

Native rdp (server and client) has gotten pretty good in Linux of late, too.

And now windows comes with openssh server too, which is a little more sane than opening up access to network managing windows machines directly via WMI...

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