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Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by _y5hn »

lm28469 wrote: post #462
thamidolide wrote: post #453

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Anyone who is genuinely left wing will easily recognize that neither party in the US represents their interests.

> genuinely left wing What does that even mean ? Any one with half a brain will find good ideas from the far left to the far right. This "left vs right" is the dumbest thing we ever came up with. Vote and fight for ideas, not sport teams... keep the fanatism for football

It seems people have difficulty falling in love with ideas, but they do fall in love with sports and personality cults!

To any thinking person the left-vs-right paradigm is beyond stupid, but yet, it keeps persisting, even worldwide.

Actually, the parties are themselves to blame, as wrong-thinkers gets weeded out or re-educated.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by skinkestek »

Schiendelman wrote: post #432
skinkestek wrote: post #415

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We (all sane people) want less nazism.

Branding everything as nazism does not help.

It is not a good thing if people go around thinking that their friendly republican neighbor or grandmother/grandfather is a nazi. It might lead some (who doesn't know better) to think nazism isn't that bad.

Besides, Nazism is a particular brand of evil and you fight them better if you learn the correct terminology, so it is a win-win (unless ones goal is to make the divide in American politics even wider by branding those at the other sites as the ugliest of all men.)

Also I haven't seen a single swastika or other NSDAP related flag on any republican event. Do you mean the confederate flag or something?

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by mbeex »

scotty79 wrote: post #455
mbeex wrote: post #446

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> This is not how politics work in the rest of the world. On the contrary, a strengthening of this very pattern can be observed everywhere.

Is it progress?

It is. But unfortunately, most people are not willing to separate the concept of progress from something that is magically inherently good. Same as with evolution or agile development :-)

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by knz_ »

jl6 wrote: post #249
colesantiago wrote: post #241

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trans women are women. period.

Some people disagree with that attempt to redefine words. This whole thread is about the right to have that disagreement in a civil fashion, or whether to shut down the thought process with phrases like “period”.

> Some people disagree with that attempt to redefine words.

A trans person's identity isn't up for debate. You are insinuating that trans people are not human, which is abhorrent.

> This whole thread is about the right to have that disagreement in a civil fashion

We already fought a war over this idea. Your side lost. Get over it.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by soundnote »

didibus wrote: post #160
mikepost001 wrote: post #17

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"you can say anything that is not directly illegal in the US without fear of being banned or other mode“ For a non-American, could you explain how this is far right? Sounds pretty liberal.

The big social media platforms tend to find themselves in hot water when something approaching "hate speech" trends on them. So they have a tendency to regulate that content away. The center and left in the US are normally not in favor of hate speech, while the right is more supportive of it. What happens then is people who want to discuss hateful topics and post hateful speech can't easily do it on the current popul…

> The big social media platforms tend to find themselves in hot water when something approaching "hate speech" trends on them. So they have a tendency to regulate that content away. > The center and left in the US are normally not in favor of hate speech, while the right is more supportive of it.

The left is very supportive of hate speech, it just has to have the right target. There's abject, open racism against whites all day. Black people attacking Asian people is white supremacy nowadays.

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Post by smcl »

krageon wrote: post #468
khmmr wrote: post #447

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If you're just going to lie, you could at least pick something everyone isn't versed in. As opposed to implying the US has no oppressed minorities, which is by now so well and extensively documented to be the case nobody sane will take you seriously after reading you say it isn't.

You got downvoted to oblivion then [Dead]-ed. Maybe some mini-brigading going here? Anyway FWIW I vouched for your comment.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by hanche »

lm28469 wrote: post #462
thamidolide wrote: post #453

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Anyone who is genuinely left wing will easily recognize that neither party in the US represents their interests.

> genuinely left wing What does that even mean ? Any one with half a brain will find good ideas from the far left to the far right. This "left vs right" is the dumbest thing we ever came up with. Vote and fight for ideas, not sport teams... keep the fanatism for football

On the contrary, I find the left/right spectrum a useful, if rather rough, guide to the landscape og political opinions. But of course, the devil is in the details, and you ignore them at your peril. I consider myself sort of left leaning, but I still think there are a whole lot of misguided ideas on the left, some of them flat out dangerous.

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Post by lom888 »

pii wrote: post #64
lom888 wrote: post #46

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These friends overtly say that free speech should be limited, in those exact terms. Not some speech, "free speech". Please let me know how you perceive me to be misunderstanding them willfully.

I think you might want to listen to them more closely, I can't answer on their behalf. If, by chance, they're anything like me, then I agree that there's giant categories of prohibited speech that should remain so. Lying about medicine, slander, libel, incitement to violence to name a few.

They want the first amendment repealed as they say it protects racists, homophobes and transphobes. They say that liberal free speech laws led to Trump and free speech should be curtailed for that reason. They openly say that they are opposed to free speech. I am trying to present their views as neutrally as I can, but this is what they say and support.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by SamoyedFurFluff »

soundnote wrote: post #420
orf wrote: post #292

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> Tech's obsession with hating on Gab/Parler is based upon on the identity of the people in them, not on whether offensive or not-sanctioned speech should be allowed in general. Because it’s often one and the same: the “identity” of the people on them are the ones spreading hate speech and disinformation. You don’t need to sugar coat it as “not-sanctioned speech”, nobody is banning anyone for saying “hey I support Do…

People have suggested re-education camps or other "deprogramming" for Trump voters, including elected Democratic representatives. And yeah, it is often one and the same. Don't remember who it was, but someone said that the problem with free speech is that you'll spend most of your time defending scoundrels. As far as hate speech goes, people literally lecture that people who happen to be born like me are "born into n…

This post is a lot of FUD with no citations.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by vinger »

rbanffy wrote: post #484
jejones3141 wrote: post #465

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The Democrats had their cult of personality in the Obama years.

At least he was a better role model.

Any response that begins with at least... should remain in kindergarden.

No one is a role model.

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