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Anyone who is genuinely left wing will easily recognize that neither party in the US represents their interests.
> genuinely left wing What does that even mean ? Any one with half a brain will find good ideas from the far left to the far right. This "left vs right" is the dumbest thing we ever came up with. Vote and fight for ideas, not sport teams... keep the fanatism for football
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> Tech's obsession with hating on Gab/Parler is based upon on the identity of the people in them Correct. We hate nazis.
On Gab daily. Never seen a single Nazi. Seen some unorthodox/thought-provoking views for sure, but that's part of why I visit and one of the same reasons I visit HN.
I wonder if anyone here has ever even seen either site, because the vast majority of the comments here are simply regurgitating national media talking points about the sites - and those talking points bear zero relationship to reality.
America used to be about the free exchange of ideas.
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Parler is basically a direct clone of twitter's basic features. They use different names but have features similar to that of Twitter's tweet/like/retweet. Gab's current iteration is a mastodon fork (although iirc they don't participate in the fediverse via activitypub). Gab is similar to Twitter like Parler but is less of a direct clone, offering other features Twitter doesn't have. Gab has been along for longer and…
> "you can say anything that is not directly illegal in the US without fear of being banned or other moderation". That's not right at all. They both ban adult content and Gab will ban blasphemy. They also frequently remove drug content. They're stricter on banning speech than Twitter and the sites they fled from.
Blasphemy is different but I haven't seen corroborating evidence of that.
Even if they did ban blasphemy, it would still be less strict on banning speech than Twitter where entire heads of state have been banned for saying words people don't like (or for being from Iran)
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#474I spent a number of years living in America in the past, and made friends with people across the political spectrum there. And what has always stood out to me is how much hatred and animosity the American right and left have for each other. Talk with someone over beers long enough and they really open up about it, probably because I'm an outsider. As far as political orientation goes, by worldwide standards America a…
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Many also believe that patriotic violence is acceptable to protect the legitimacy of democracy. What kind of conversation do you have when people believe their democracy was stolen from them?
There is no way at this point for the GOP to safely retreat from the position that Joe Biden is an illegitimate president. To do so would be political death.
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"This is not how politics work in the rest of the world." A lot of the debate around Brexit in the UK worked exactly that way - on both sides.
I feel that's disingenuous. It wasn't the same way on both sides. This kind of false equivalence crops up in a lot of places but it needs to be called out. Many high profile Remainers claimed Leavers were/are racist, ignorant, far-right, small minded, hated all foreigners, didn't know what they were voting for, were old and thus should have their vote be ignored, and worse. Leavers claimed Remainers were ... what? Af…
Leavers calling Remainers "traitors" seems fairly common.
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#476I spent a number of years living in America in the past, and made friends with people across the political spectrum there. And what has always stood out to me is how much hatred and animosity the American right and left have for each other. Talk with someone over beers long enough and they really open up about it, probably because I'm an outsider. As far as political orientation goes, by worldwide standards America a…
I am afraid this is far more common. At least Brazil, Spain and the UK are exactly like that, if not worse.
Spain is indeed closer to the US in some ways as the legacy of Franco is very hard to forget by both sides, which causes all manner of weird things
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"fascist" is such an easy word to use without really knowing what it means, slowly degrading its power.
Definition of fascism 1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
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> What does that have to do with anything? It's a reminder, more to the point, is it a slur though? If you are fine with denying someone's existence I am sure you can take whatever is coming to you from very people fighting against you. > ...incitement of violence I would disagree with the 'incitement of violence', but to be fair, I don't blame them either, I would have said the same as well.
> If you are fine with denying someone's existence I am sure you can take whatever is coming to you from very people fighting against you. Calling for people to be killed is never OK. Defending people who call for others to be killed is not OK.
Maybe don't deny the existence of people and perhaps you won't get those responses?
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> determined to destroy conservatism by any means possible Sadly, a couple of websites being scraped and hacked isn't going to destroy conservatism. It'll take a lot more effort than that to wipe out this scourge of humanity.
I initially flagged this comment, but then I realized it's a great demonstration of the parent comment's claims. So I unflagged it.