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> Correct. We hate nazis. If you believe there are 10s of millions of Nazis in America, you have issues.
Serious question: how many people would you estimate identify as Nazis, or hold highly anti-semitic/racist + authoritarian views in America? Hundreds of thousands? A million?
https://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/you-are-still-crying-w...
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What does that have to do with anything? The link above is a collection of screenshots of incitement of violence happening on twitter. a) Against whom or for what reason that incitement is happening if irrelevant. b) Equating defending a persons right not to receive death threats to supporting their ideology is beyond dangerous.
> What does that have to do with anything? It's a reminder, more to the point, is it a slur though? If you are fine with denying someone's existence I am sure you can take whatever is coming to you from very people fighting against you. > ...incitement of violence I would disagree with the 'incitement of violence', but to be fair, I don't blame them either, I would have said the same as well.
Calling for people to be killed is never OK. Defending people who call for others to be killed is not OK.
I spent a number of years living in America in the past, and made friends with people across the political spectrum there. And what has always stood out to me is how much hatred and animosity the American right and left have for each other. Talk with someone over beers long enough and they really open up about it, probably because I'm an outsider. As far as political orientation goes, by worldwide standards America a…
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The free speech of facsists shouldnt be protected, Im glad there are hackers doing the right thing
We should be standing up for the human rights of everyone. It's a dangerous game to say "everyone except x group should have human rights". I'm curious why this isn't common knowledge by now. Do people no longer believe in or care for the rule of law?
If you allow the people who want everyone not like them to be forcibly marginalized or killed to have the same rights as all others, they will relentlessly try to flip that around until they're the only ones with those rights. We have to stop such behavior at almost any cost. This was made blindingly obvious to the majority of the population during WWII.
It's a damn shame how so many are forgetting those lessons now. It could very well lead to something even worse than that war. This is why what you seem to think should be "common knowledge by now" isn't.
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Hundreds. Stalin. Hitler. Mao. The list of genocides is longer than my arm.
This is a very interesting world view you have where Hitler is left wing. I think that alone scuppers any substance to your argument. Stalin and Mao would only be left wing if you prescribe to the thought that communism by nature must only be left wing. I assume your train of thought on Hitler is similar because you're likely equating the socialist word in the Nazi party to left wing socialism. At best this is dishon…
One reason the Marxist kind of thought pattern is dangerous is because of something like that. The ideas in and of themselves can sound good and appealing - who wants poor people to live in squalor and so on? But if we look at what natural and sexual selection ingrains in biological life - it is by necessity kin-preferring, competitive and in non-eusocial social creatures, status seeking, for example. Things that prefer non-kin and don't compete just die out.
In that light, a sound philosophy would understand that those things can't be eradicated by human will, take the impulses and hone something constructive out of them. But Marxist thought is rationalist in the sense that it thinks doctrine and reason can mold human nature to whatever shape, and then achieve their utopistic ends. That, of course, cannot happen because we're built from competitive, kin-preferring, status-seeking genes, not utopistic ones. Marxism is incompatible with biological life, and to get biological life to comply for any length of time, it must be forced constantly, or the utopian society degrade into tyranny, which has thus far happened every single time these things have been tried. But it's never done properly, so we should try again.
I spent a number of years living in America in the past, and made friends with people across the political spectrum there. And what has always stood out to me is how much hatred and animosity the American right and left have for each other. Talk with someone over beers long enough and they really open up about it, probably because I'm an outsider. As far as political orientation goes, by worldwide standards America a…
On the contrary, a strengthening of this very pattern can be observed everywhere.
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As a European from a country with actual experience with various totalitarian regimes, based on current actions in US like restricting free speech, banning books, enforcing ideology through propaganda and forced "reeducation" courses for those whose beliefs are considered "wrong", "positive" discrimination based on racial features etc, I'm more inclined to think that you are not hating the nazis, you are the nazis. A…
You're suggesting that right-wing white males are an oppressed minority in the USA. It takes a serious amount of ignorance and mental gymnastics to sincerely believe this. I suspect you are trolling, but if you're not then I don't know what would convince you otherwise because the amount of information you'd have to discard or ignore to reach this conclusion is alarming.
I spent a number of years living in America in the past, and made friends with people across the political spectrum there. And what has always stood out to me is how much hatred and animosity the American right and left have for each other. Talk with someone over beers long enough and they really open up about it, probably because I'm an outsider. As far as political orientation goes, by worldwide standards America a…
> This is not how politics work in the rest of the world. Between radicalised parties it looks like that everywhere. When people have only two choices, by necessity each choice contains radicalised fringe elements. For some reason societal factors in the US give these elements a huge presence, which I don't really understand.
"See , we told you the other side was crazy"
911 truthers & marxists have always existed, however its only when the "mainstream" of the other side chose to hand the fringe a megaphone, that they came to the fore.
This was not done for debate or charity. It was to score cheap political points in the age of clickbait. Extra Bonus: they got to extrapolate the extreme over 50% of the US population, and by consequence, to expand their potential eyeball audience
I spent a number of years living in America in the past, and made friends with people across the political spectrum there. And what has always stood out to me is how much hatred and animosity the American right and left have for each other. Talk with someone over beers long enough and they really open up about it, probably because I'm an outsider. As far as political orientation goes, by worldwide standards America a…
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It's stupid to try and condense the political ideology of the US (or almost any nation) down to one spectrum and then try and map that onto the rest of the world when we (and the rest of the world) have a lot of ideology based on "well party X took position Y because party V had position W back in year Z and they needed to be opposite and it stuck around". What's left and right is mostly a figment of historical coincidence, not any sort of ideological consistency across a party.
Shall we do a survey of immigration and gun control policies across Europe to drive the point home? If you don't like that option we can survey the social safety nets and freedom of expression in Asia.
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"This is not how politics work in the rest of the world." A lot of the debate around Brexit in the UK worked exactly that way - on both sides.
I feel that's disingenuous. It wasn't the same way on both sides. This kind of false equivalence crops up in a lot of places but it needs to be called out. Many high profile Remainers claimed Leavers were/are racist, ignorant, far-right, small minded, hated all foreigners, didn't know what they were voting for, were old and thus should have their vote be ignored, and worse. Leavers claimed Remainers were ... what? Af…
Sadly, a couple of websites being scraped and hacked isn't going to destroy conservatism.
It'll take a lot more effort than that to wipe out this scourge of humanity.