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Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by zpeti »

geofft wrote: post #103
Turing_Machine wrote: post #54

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Hmm... so in your opinion, back in the days of the Hollywood blacklist, when Louis B. Mayer decided that he wasn't going to buy any more screenplays from communists (or anyone who even had friends who were communists), that was perfectly okay? "Freedom of association", right? The truly bizarre thing about the "woke" movement is that they seem to have absolutely no conception that the stuff they're doing to others can…

It's confusing how you criticize leftists for not realizing that they could theoretically be the target of these attacks while citing an extremely well-known example of leftists being the target of these attacks. Leftists are generally aware of this risk, because today there is no shortage of similar social pressure against leftist ideas, and do not think it's a concern. The problem is not that it's never occurred to…

This makes absolutely no sense, and to me proves just how ignorant the left are of what could happen to them.

Censorship always becomes about those in power staying in power. Look no further than wall street bets. That had nothing to do with left right but about control and power.

Of course no one in the mainstream media is willing to consider this, because apparently wsb is financial trumpism.

Wake up. This is what the aclu warned about 50 years ago.

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Post by exporectomy »

lwansbrough wrote: post #162
phroobster wrote: post #150

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Alternative viewpoint: platforms without censorship tend to be right wing because that is what succeeds in a free marketplace of ideas. Left wing ideas require censorship to thrive.

Conservativism largely fails over time in the free marketplace of ideas as evidence by human progress and societal change. Conservativism is fundamentally about suppressing change in favour of familiarity and established norms, which could certainly be seen as censorship. An obvious example of this is the conservative/Puritan influence in American culture, which has lead to excessive censorship of sexual content and…

Counterexample - Islamic culture is conservative and thriving in the world (20% of all humans are Muslim), with roughly the same beliefs and culture as it's had for the past 1000 years.

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Post by throwaway189262 »

bmarquez wrote: post #203
throwaway189262 wrote: post #159

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Right leaning content is downvoted because the US population leans left. The centrist view, the average American, would be considered a leftist by conservatives. This is why they think they're getting brigaded everywhere. They are. Their beliefs are unpopular. The only reason the US Republican party is viable while being so far right is structural voting advantages. That's why they've lost the popular vote almost eve…

Your comment would make sense if Reddit and r/politics is an accurate description of the US population. But I'll have to disagree, since the comment above me suggests that there are a significant number of non-American Reddit users who lean more left than the average American, skewing the upvoting patterns. I'd argue that there are a different set of "artificial advantages" on the internet, such as that. And when I b…

Redditors lean farther left than the average american. The average internet user is also left of the average american because they trend younger.

But it's also undeniable that the average American leans left. That's why Republicans lose the popular vote in both chambers of congress and the presidency nearly every election. Their positions are unpopular, that's why they get down voted on "mainstream" sites where the user base is large enough to revert to the mean.

And campaign focus outside of urban cores would mean that the average American is even farther left than they appear to be.

Biden is farther right than the average Democrat because he needed to be to win. The structural advantages to Conservatives means the Democratic party needs to run centrist candidates.

In comparison, the same advantages mean the Republican party can still win with extreme right wing candidates. For example, Trump was the first president that never hit 50% approval rating but it was still high enough for him to win and do okay during his second campaign.

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Post by paganel »

akyu wrote: post #9

Ratting people out to the government is hip now... crazy times.

Imagine my surprise when after January 6th I saw more than a few articles praising people for turning in their close relatives for having attended the Capitol protest. I had thought that only happened in Stalinist Russia, i.e. turning in your parents or brothers and sisters to the State for political motives.

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Post by wwww4all »

fattire wrote: post #164
wwww4all wrote: post #156

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It’s mostly normal people freely associating with other normal people, without fascist establishment elite government control, like Twitter, Facebook, elite media, and most other social media. Did you ever wonder why you are calling others far right or far left? Why are you referring to other American citizens with those terms? Who is pushing those terms that divide the vast majority of normal Americans? Who stands t…

For those unaware, the premise of They Live is that the elites and one-percenters are actually inter-dimensionally traveling space aliens. It's a great movie, but a metaphor not a "time-shifted documentary", unless I missed the latest Qdrop.

If you saw the metaphor for time shifted documentary, then you clearly saw the metaphor for inter dimensionally traveling space aliens.

The Q nonsense is clearly government psyop. Read up on coin operations is Iraq, Afghanistan, SE Asia. And see the similarities and patterns. Always look to see who gains and who loses when something happens.

It was a conspiracy theory for long time that US government did human experimentation. Until documented proof of US government doing human experimentation surfaces, see Tuskegee experiment, Central American experiments, MKUltra.

The reality is much worse than what is peddled by Q larders and hacks working for government.

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Post by [deleted] »

jl6 wrote: post #201
midasz wrote: post #195

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an entire website with people saying things about terfs but not a single sentence explaining wtf a terf is, i'm too old for twitter feuds

You could Google it. I was just responding to the request for examples of hate groups running unchecked on Twitter.

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Post by paganel »

smt88 wrote: post #196
spaniard89277 wrote: post #176

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You'll be a fascist sooner or later, don't worry.

By this logic, we shouldn't make or enforce laws because someday, someone can pass a law against harmless behavior. Regulation, moderation, and law enforcement are always a balancing act. We can't just say that balance is an impossible dream, so let's just give up.

> By this logic, we shouldn't make or enforce laws because someday, someone can pass a law against harmless behavior.

In a so-called liberal state we shouldn't send people behind bars for political reasons, not even fascists. Sending the people that protested at the Capitol behind bars is being done as a result of politics.

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Post by rtpg »

cambalache wrote: post #163
saila wrote: post #131

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Everyone I know (personally or otherwise) who is an actual leftist is very vocally unhappy with the bombing of Syria, the lack of stimulus checks, ICE's policies, and Biden generally. He's most certainly not a leftist hero/idol.

A beautiful not-true-Scotman in the wild. AOC -> Silent Bernie -> Silent Krugman -> Silent Reich -> Silent Faang Employees -> Silent Ilham Omar -> To her credit, she spoke out. If by "actual leftist" you mean people like Rania Khalek, I would agree, but unfortunately people like her are a tiny minority and constantly belittled, ignored or called tankies or something along those lines. The mainstream left is dominated…

The fact you think Krugman and FAANG employees are in this group of people, I feel like you need to spend some time talking with "leftist" a bit more.

But also you're just wrong.

AOC on relief checks (Feb 7th) https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1358244213918494722

AOC on abolish ICE (Feb 24th) 1364349732760518657

Bernie forcing a minimum wage vote (7 hours ago!) https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1366545093876924416

30 seconds of searching on the leftist's favorite communication platform. I think the problem might be more that you're not in the right echo chamber... or something.

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Post by feralimal »

dagmx wrote: post #207
feralimal wrote: post #191

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Stalin and Mao were communists.

This only works if you put cold war blinders on and equate the word communism to being left wing. Their policy and actions were decidedly not left wing.

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Post by woutr_be »

throwawei369 wrote: post #172
throwawei369 wrote: post #149

This increase of extreme assault on free-speech platforms should be worrying to everyone. Not too long ago, we were hailing the "internet" as a free fair space. Now it is a free fair space ... for everyone but some kind of people. I'm for free speech but this specific kind of targeted attacks is getting out of hand.

Exhibit A. HN downvoting this comment to hell

If HN removed your comment it could be seen as an exhibit A. But you being downvoted has nothing to do with free speech, you’re still allowed to say what you wanted, but if people disagree, they have the right to downvote you.
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