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Texas electric firm files for bankruptcy citing $1.8B in claims

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Re: Texas electric firm files for bankruptcy citing $1.8B in claims

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This is the side of privatisation that gets ignored. When private companies screw up, who gets left with the bill? Private companies have no incentive to be ready for really big problems because they know they’ll get bailed out, or just not have to pay.

Privatise the profit, socialise the losses.

Re: Texas electric firm files for bankruptcy citing $1.8B in claims

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What happens if they go bankrupt? Does anyone know what plan B) is for people getting their electricity from this company?

I would imagine it would rather be a chapter 11 kind of route, restructuring the company but the assets producing electricity are not going anywhere.

Re: Texas electric firm files for bankruptcy citing $1.8B in claims

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Elon Musk is another Trump in the making. Only difference is Elon Musk is smart enough not to foot gun himself when he actually asserts his power.

He was not born in America so he cannot be a president.

You don't have to be born in America to be President, but you do need to be a natural-born citizen.

Of course, the idea of amending the Constitution to remove that requirement to clear the path for a particular candidate (not that long ago, Arnold Schwarzenegger was mentioned) has come up before; current restrictions won't necessarily apply indefinitely into the future.

Re: Texas electric firm files for bankruptcy citing $1.8B in claims

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What happens if they go bankrupt? Does anyone know what plan B) is for people getting their electricity from this company?

Customers are automatically moved to a Provider Of Last Resort (POLR). No interruption in service, but (likely) dramatically higher prices.

Re: Texas electric firm files for bankruptcy citing $1.8B in claims

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I do find it troubling, however, that it’s more often than not used to clear down the ledger of a going concern, and then continue business as usual, same everything, just a new incorporation. You can bet your bottom dollar that they’ll be buying their own assets back on cents on the dollar, reincorporating, putting everyone back in the same positions, and paying some nice fat bonuses out of the capital they’ll be gi…

> You can bet your bottom dollar that they’ll be buying their own assets back on cents on the dollar, reincorporating, putting everyone back in the same positions, and paying some nice fat bonuses out of the capital they’ll be given as part of their dynamic chapter 11 restructure. [citation very much needed]

What exactly are you looking for a citation for? The GP was stating their strong belief regarding a future event and (I assume) facetiously saying you should bet on it.

Re: Texas electric firm files for bankruptcy citing $1.8B in claims

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Is he against regulation to keep power plants working in winter?

I am for evidence-based regulation, not picking and choosing which regulation is good or bad based on your own broken philosophy, or whether it is good for your business.

The evidence would suggest the California approach to regulation also fails to keep the power on.

Re: Texas electric firm files for bankruptcy citing $1.8B in claims

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No question about that. The novelty is that a single snow/ice weather event could push a large utility operator into bankruptcy

Or like California is it that deferring costs (winterizing in TX and fire prevention and forest clearing in CA) makes executives look good while kicking problems down the road, maybe even decades down the road. Here in New Zealand the line network operator in the city of Dunedin has underinvested in the city line network, so instead of replacing power poles, they have simply changed the rules so that 2,500+ unservice…

I hate this story - the case of Dunedin's lines company (Aurora) is not a matter of simple underinvestment - a decade or so ago the city built an indoor stadium, it cost hundreds of millions more than they originally claimed, and the local rugby community welched on the 'private fundraising' they promised to bring to the table - the city got stuck having to pay for it all, plus rather than making the promised small annual profit it needs to be subsidised to the tune of millions every year.

The stadium is owned by the same city owned holding company that owns Aurora(as well as a couple of other companies) - they effectively balance off the money made from Aurora with losses from the stadium - this allows them to avoid taxes on the profits from Aurora (a perfectly legal process).

However - and here's the real problem - Aurora (and the other companies) were not making enough money to cover the loan servicing - the holding company put immense pressure on the various companies to produce more income (profit) Aurora seems to have done it by reducing the amount of money it spent on maintenance .... now they're dealing with the results from years of missed maintenance and are trying to get the people living around Dunedin (and in it) to pay more to effectively cover that money taken out for the stadium.

Really they need to raise ticket prices at the stadium to cover these losses and make the stadium self funding - at the moment we subsidise every rugby ticket from our power bills and from our rates (property taxes)

Re: Texas electric firm files for bankruptcy citing $1.8B in claims

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is he against regulation to keep power plants working in winter?

I am for evidence-based regulation, not picking and choosing which regulation is good or bad based on your own broken philosophy, or whether it is good for your business.

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