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Coinbase mafia shows how tight a circle holds sway over Bitcoin

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Re: Coinbase mafia shows how tight a circle holds sway over Bitcoin

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> The result is that the number 1 way people get into Bitcoin is through a mechanism that has none of the attributes of Bitcoin. Sure, but 95% of people don't care about that. They just want an asset they will go up. Everything else is just a story people tell themselves so they're not putting 20% of their net worth in trading cards.

Every store of value that has ever existed and will ever exist is just a game of speculation that it will continue to be valued when you're ready to withdraw your money to do things you've saved for. Gold was the best portable and fungible speculative bet for a very long time. Bonds are speculation that a country will continue to be productive and well managed enough to pay their debts without resorting to massive in…

Great comment, thanks

Re: Coinbase mafia shows how tight a circle holds sway over Bitcoin

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It is kind of funny that exchanges have become so successful for Bitcoin- since they lose 100% of the stuff that made BTC attractive in the first place. They’re centralised, regulated and transactions don’t even go on the blockchain. The result is that the number 1 way people get into Bitcoin is through a mechanism that has none of the attributes of Bitcoin.

That's the way people "get into it", as you need to be able to purchase bitcoin somehow, and atm, the easiest way is through a centralized exchange. There needs to be a level of trust when you are moving from a centralized system to a decentralized system.

But once you have your cyrpto, you can move it to your own wallet, or anywhere else you'd like. I can't do that with fiat currency.

Re: Coinbase mafia shows how tight a circle holds sway over Bitcoin

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This article is an example of the pure propaganda that 'mainstream financial media' participates in on-the-regular. Why that is I don't know. Symbiotic business interests I guess.

It's not that the information is incorrect. It probably is and it does tell us something about some of the big players around Coinbase.

But the whole bitcoin 'ecosystem' is essentially a collective criminal organization, with some players being closer to the dirty parts than others. (I'm leaving out everyday holders of bitcoin, just talking about insider types.) These big Coinbase players might not 'touch the poo' directly, but their hands still get stinky.

The price action in bitcoin is determined across a network of exchanges, most of which do not use real dollars (or other govt currency). They use crypto only for trading, including the fake 'stable-coin' tether.

Tether (the company who issues the currency tether) has been shown definitively to be running a scam and are completely dishonest.) They have issued $35Billion worth of their fake dollars. Until recently they were issuing on the order of $1B per week!

Tether is a sister company to the exchange Bitfinex with the same owners and management. So essentially the same company. They just signed an agreement with the New York Attorney General where they paid a fine of $18.5M (notice difference in scale). The agreement spells out exactly how they have been scamming people. This is based on information coming from the company itself. This is not FUD, just FACT. (interestingly since they signed this agreement ~10 days ago, they stopped issuing tether.)

One of the central players in this ongoing criminal operation who has been taken out is Crypto Capital Corp. They ran a shadow banking system for many of the big exchanges, including Bitfinex and Binance. The Feds seized $850M from CCC for money laundering, which precipitated a crisis for these entities and intensified the criminal activity of the many industry insiders connected through this shadow bank.

My guess is that Tether issued $35B in fake USDT (tether) almost exclusively without dollar collateral backing. (the original premise of tether was each would only be issued on receipt of a true USD by tether, and therefor each USDT was pegged to a USD, the peg holds for now but the dollar backing is not there, that's another story.)

Most of this $35B was issued over the last year when we have seen a huge rise in bitcoin price. The tether currency only has one purpose, to buy cryptocurrency. So this is a huge amount of liquidity introduced into the market. (Compare to the hype around Tesla's $1.5B bitcoin purchase.)

It is the price appreciation that drives this whole market, including the business of Coinbase, even though they do not deal with tether.

The OP article mentions none of this! Sure, it reveals some insiders, perhaps on the more legit side, but ignores the real engine of this speculative bubble/fraud.

It has the effect of 'white-washing' this dirty game.

It's really gross.

Re: Coinbase mafia shows how tight a circle holds sway over Bitcoin

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There must be an entry point. After you bought you BTC, you can withdraw it, and use it to pay for things, store privately etc.

A true cypherpunk would say that everyone should just start earning bitcoin directly to enter.

That is not possible without some kind of bootstrapping mechanism.

Re: Coinbase mafia shows how tight a circle holds sway over Bitcoin

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Pretty unsupportable? Complete and utter nonsense. The Fed just handed out cheques to all Americans because Congress asked it to. It was unprecedented in US history, and the strongest indication that the system still works for the average person. Under what circumstances would that be possible with Bitcoin? Do the big whales in crypto care that you've lost your job? Congress does because it's their job to care. That'…

I want to believe you but keep in mind that at the same time the government also propped up the private sector (special interests) and it did spend way more than on the citizenry. Industries that were too big to fail were bailed out while a big chunk of the population were left unable to support themselves and I'm sorry but a check or two of a few thousands is not gonna do a damn thing for them when they are forced t…

Big industry means lots of jobs. They were right to bail them out. Are we supposed to let the car industry die on principle if it causes a massive amount of destruction? China wouldn't let it happen.

Re: Coinbase mafia shows how tight a circle holds sway over Bitcoin

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I wouldn't go as far as calling it a reinvention of the modern financial system, but I would call it a reinvention of the Dutch tulip mania[1], with the notable exception that tulips do have some tangible value. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania

The other obvious exception is that bitcoins don’t self-replicate.

Tether, though...

Re: Coinbase mafia shows how tight a circle holds sway over Bitcoin

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"This type of cancer affects mostly men." "Women make the majority of the school's Computer Science enrollment which used to be mostly men."

That must mean cancer is sexist. No wonder people hate it so much.

Yeah, testicular cancer is real sexist
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