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Facebook blocked posts by a militia group opposed to the Turkish government

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Re: Facebook blocked posts by a militia group opposed to the Turkish government

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Post by ethanwillis »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #58
laurent92 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook has so much power with censoring only one side of the extremists. A good experiment would be if you could find a Christian priest to report, and check whether their response is weighted differently.

A good experiment would be ... That would be an anecdote just as Ahmed's findings were anecdotal. It you want to check for bias you need data.

Data that Facebook is fighting hard to make sure people can't collect. Just like how they were poisoning the well while suing academic teams just trying to get information on ads data.

Re: Facebook blocked posts by a militia group opposed to the Turkish government

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Post by kalia35 »

jmacjmac wrote: post #56
jacquesm wrote: post #51

An enemy of Erdogan, not necessarily an enemy of Turkey.

Around %90 of the population in Turkey would call that group an enemy. So, it is not another "Erdogan wants to silence his enemy" case.

source?

Re: Facebook blocked posts by a militia group opposed to the Turkish government

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Post by kingofpandora »

komahirrimbuke wrote: post #12

I'll leave this here in case anyone wants to argue YPG is not PKK. YPG is a literal terrorist organization. Imagine ISIS had a Facebook page. "Senior US general explains rebranding YPG away from terror group PKK" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpaIO-Pj10

Remember that the invasion of Afrin was done by Turkey in conjunction with jihadist terrorist groups. Turkey has no problem with terrorism, only Kurds.

Re: Facebook blocked posts by a militia group opposed to the Turkish government

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Post by jankassens »

postingawayonhn wrote: post #9
vbezhenar wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a good approach. Country must be able to control content served to their citizens. And that ruling should not be extended to other countries. Citizens can either elect different president or use VPN.

Freedom of speech/expression is a right of every individual on this planet. Any regime that does not support that should face pushback from its citizens, businesses, and other countries.

Even with free speech as a right, there’s still the conflict with other rights.

E.g in the USA, slander or sexual content is limiting what you can express.

In Germany, Holocaust denial and nazi symbols are illegal.

The vast majority of people in these countries seem to agree with these limitations. (I don’t know about the Turkish situation)

The ranking of rights when they’re in conflict with each other is fascinating to me as it can be pretty different by country.

Re: Facebook blocked posts by a militia group opposed to the Turkish government

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Post by cblconfederate »

imgabe wrote: post #42
postingawayonhn wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Freedom of speech/expression is a right of every individual on this planet. Any regime that does not support that should face pushback from its citizens, businesses, and other countries.

I agree, but in practice what would happen is Turkey would just block Facebook if they refused to comply. Facebook can't grant freedom of speech to people. They have to take control of their government and demand it for themselves if they want it. Facebook has made it clear they don't care about free speech anyway, as they'll happily ban anyone who jeopardizes their ad revenue.

The moral thing to do is let the government ban them. The problem lies in the fact that totalitarian governments use social media to manipulate their own citizens and often run campaigns against them. By siding with the government in serious issues they make it even more difficult for citizens to "demand their freedoms", siding with the devil
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