Facebook blocked posts by a militia group opposed to the Turkish government
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Re: Facebook blocked posts by a militia group opposed to the Turkish government
#2To elaborate on the title, “silenced” means:
> [YPG’s page] can’t be viewed by Facebook users inside Turkey
> The page is still available on Facebook to people who view the site through U.S. internet providers.
And “enemy of Turkey”:
> Turkey considers the YPG a terrorist organization, although neither the U.S. nor Facebook do.
Re: Facebook blocked posts by a militia group opposed to the Turkish government
#3To elaborate on the title, “silenced” means: > [YPG’s page] can’t be viewed by Facebook users inside Turkey > The page is still available on Facebook to people who view the site through U.S. internet providers. And “enemy of Turkey”: > Turkey considers the YPG a terrorist organization, although neither the U.S. nor Facebook do.
Yeah, "terrorist" is kind of a floating designator. The YPG should be distinguished from the PKK in this instance. The UK takes occasional erratic action against the YPG: https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/can-europe-make-it/terroris...
Re: Facebook blocked posts by a militia group opposed to the Turkish government
#4Facebook is following laws of countries it operates in, truly shocking
Re: Facebook blocked posts by a militia group opposed to the Turkish government
#5Facebook is following laws of countries it operates in, truly shocking
Not very uplifting if you account for who's ruling Turkey and establishing these laws, is it?
Re: Facebook blocked posts by a militia group opposed to the Turkish government
#6Facebook is following laws of countries it operates in, truly shocking
Not very uplifting if you account for who's ruling Turkey and establishing these laws, is it?
So... Zuckerberg should fund a coup in Turkey?
There's an easy common argument for these things: restricted mass information/communication is better than none, or better than the lower amount you'd get with a home-grown platform. Seems a pretty good argument to me.
Re: Facebook blocked posts by a militia group opposed to the Turkish government
#7To elaborate on the title, “silenced” means: > [YPG’s page] can’t be viewed by Facebook users inside Turkey > The page is still available on Facebook to people who view the site through U.S. internet providers. And “enemy of Turkey”: > Turkey considers the YPG a terrorist organization, although neither the U.S. nor Facebook do.
This is a good approach. Country must be able to control content served to their citizens. And that ruling should not be extended to other countries. Citizens can either elect different president or use VPN.
Re: Facebook blocked posts by a militia group opposed to the Turkish government
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not very uplifting if you account for who's ruling Turkey and establishing these laws, is it?
So... Zuckerberg should fund a coup in Turkey? There's an easy common argument for these things: restricted mass information/communication is better than none, or better than the lower amount you'd get with a home-grown platform. Seems a pretty good argument to me.
One could look for good arguments to frame this in a better way, though I believe there might be a simpler way to explain: follow the money.
Companies and people in the West don't care what happens elsewhere, they're just in for the money. There's money to be made in Turkey as well, and Facebook doesn't care about specifics of how.
For the common people this all sounds fair and strategic on the surface level, though I'm skeptical of its sustainability. Just like how it's hard to be rich in a poor and sketchy neighbourhood, it could be hard to remain a free state in a planet where many of your neighbours aren't.
Re: Facebook blocked posts by a militia group opposed to the Turkish government
#9To elaborate on the title, “silenced” means: > [YPG’s page] can’t be viewed by Facebook users inside Turkey > The page is still available on Facebook to people who view the site through U.S. internet providers. And “enemy of Turkey”: > Turkey considers the YPG a terrorist organization, although neither the U.S. nor Facebook do.
This is a good approach. Country must be able to control content served to their citizens. And that ruling should not be extended to other countries. Citizens can either elect different president or use VPN.
Freedom of speech/expression is a right of every individual on this planet. Any regime that does not support that should face pushback from its citizens, businesses, and other countries.
Re: Facebook blocked posts by a militia group opposed to the Turkish government
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not very uplifting if you account for who's ruling Turkey and establishing these laws, is it?
So... Zuckerberg should fund a coup in Turkey? There's an easy common argument for these things: restricted mass information/communication is better than none, or better than the lower amount you'd get with a home-grown platform. Seems a pretty good argument to me.
As a product of the United States you would hope that they would stand up for freedom of speech/expression as much as possible and take a principled stand occasionally.