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Re: Firefox 86.0

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My browser history is NCSA Mosaic->Netscape->Firefox. Even when Firefox had its downs I stuck with it. Not sure why. It just felt right. It was always perfect for me. The only thing I miss are subtitles in Picture-in-Picture mode.

Skipped over Phoenix?

Re: Firefox 86.0

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> Firefox now supports simultaneously watching multiple videos in Picture-in-Picture. Is Adderall the new Aspirin? Or is there some WFH use here that I'm missing.

While I usually limit myself to one video playing on the computer, when following live events it can happen that you want to have two streams running. E.g. the multiple channels streaming the Starship test flights or watch one video while waiting for another stream to come online.

I was exactly thinking about the Starship test flights for this. I think that's the only time I've ever had more than a single video playing at once.

Re: Firefox 86.0

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fwiw Firefox always had a print preview; it was just behind a different shortcut rather than integrated into the default flow.

The old Print Preview actually allowed you to inspect the page with the Developer Tools. Which was great for debugging print-specific CSS. I don't think that's possible with the new Print Preview, but the new one is better in every other way.

Should be possible using the Browser Toolbox to inspect the entire interface? I just checked and the HTML is definitely in the inspector at least, but I'm not sure what your requirements are.

Re: Firefox 86.0

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post #105

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We have an application using a web based PDF viewer (PDFTron) and printing PDFs has always been a pain point. That library supports "embedded printing" which only works on Chrome ( https://www.pdftron.com/documentation/web/guides/print/overv... ). So for now we're advising our customers to use Chrome for our application. Do you know if this is something being improved upon? Sorry this is a bit OT!

Offhand I'm not sure what functionality Firefox is missing that has caused them to only support Chrome. I'd be interested in taking a look though if you have their paid support and can persuade them to either file a bug[1] (or to give you sufficient technical information so that you can file a bug). 1. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Core&comp...

Thanks! I'll get in contact with their support. Too late to edit my earlier post. The link to their embedded printing is: https://www.pdftron.com/documentation/web/guides/print/overv...

Re: Firefox 86.0

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Firefox has hundreds of developers. I don’t understand why performance isn’t on par with Chrome. I try my best to use Firefox to bring support, but sometimes I just have to switch back when things get too laggy. I’m sorry, but I only have 8 hours a day, and I’m not going to let my productivity flow get ruined.

What are you using that makes the performance difference be even noticeable? With the exception of cases where Firefox is absolutely broken, for me it's good enough. Or when I had crappy extensions, have you tried disabling extensions? I only have uBlock Origin and Firefox Containers these days. It does sadden me that some sites are starting to refuse to work with Firefox these days... But I won't give up.

For me, Google Maps/Apple Maps (on DuckDuckGo) are painfully laggy on Firefox/Linux, even after force enabling all the GPU acceleration options. OpenStreetMap works fine, though.

That said, Google has a long history of making their products glitchy on Firefox, so not sure it's all Firefox's fault.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/former-mozilla-exec-google-has...

Re: Firefox 86.0

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post #44

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So you're angry at the Mozilla CEO for posting about political topics rather than the browser and product vision? And yet here you are, in a thread about the Mozilla browser, posting about political topics. Maybe take your own advice?

I don't know why you're being so hostile. It was in interesting revelation to me. And pretty surprising too since the last CEO was kicked out for far less.

What's bad in that blog? Any particular article?

Re: Firefox 86.0

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Firefox has hundreds of developers. I don’t understand why performance isn’t on par with Chrome. I try my best to use Firefox to bring support, but sometimes I just have to switch back when things get too laggy. I’m sorry, but I only have 8 hours a day, and I’m not going to let my productivity flow get ruined.

Are you using Webrender with Firefox? It’s off by default but once I turned it on, it sped up FF significantly. No beta issues so far.

Re: Firefox 86.0

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post #139

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Yes, this works. For now. The bigger problem is that this will probably go away at some point and the "sponsored" items will have no way (or a very difficult way) of being removed. This has happened before with the browser toolbar having an about:config option to disable enlarging behavior, now you have to do some hacky CSS thing. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1274579

Now you don't just have to anticipate having options removed; that's the explicit development plan. (Quote is about a different preference, but I think it makes the style of development clear.) > We intend to add a keyboard shortcut for this[1]. In the meantime you can revert to the old printing interface by setting the `print.tab_modal.enabled` preference to `false` via the page `about:config`. In a few releases tim…

they plan to remove a hidden about:config preference for the system print dialog and replace it with a _dedicated keyboard shortcut_. if you think that's evidence that they want to take away your control, i beg to differ.

Re: Firefox 86.0

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We intend to add a keyboard shortcut for this[1]. In the meantime you can revert to the old printing interface by setting the `print.tab_modal.enabled` preference to `false` via the page `about:config`. In a few releases time, after we've finished integrating user feedback and polishing rough edges, we intend to remove that preference though. 1. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1667950

Why is Firefox, with its devotion to hearing the user's voice, always in such a hurry to remove toggles that express user preferences?

In the general case where that's true I expect it mostly comes down to trying to balance features against available resources and the amount/complexity of the code that needs to be written/maintained. As noted elsewhere in this thread, there were a bunch of layoffs at Mozilla the last year, but even without that it's sometimes necessary to make tough, pragmatic decisions.

In the case of the new print preview/workflow, however, I expect it will provide virtually everyone with a better workflow once we've finished polishing any rough edges. The feedback on places like Reddit indicates that it's already a very clear net win for most users, and I think we can address most of the complaints on support.mozilla.org etc. The eventual removal of the `print.tab_modal.enabled` preference and the old code will simply be because having two print preview implementations adds code complexity and is a maintenance burden.

Re: Firefox 86.0

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post #99

My browser history is NCSA Mosaic->Netscape->Firefox. Even when Firefox had its downs I stuck with it. Not sure why. It just felt right. It was always perfect for me. The only thing I miss are subtitles in Picture-in-Picture mode.

Yup. I will say though, as someone that never left FF, the new Edge is really good on Windows. I'm impressed. Edge is missing some features that make browsing for me, a far more enjoyable experience though. For Firefox, "It just feels right" is the best way to put it.
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