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Mac OS X Lion: Coming In July For $29

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Re: Mac OS X Lion: Coming In July For $29

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The download only distribution will be a nuisance for 64G SSD MacBook Airs like my wife's laptop. She often only has 5 or 10 GB of free disk space.

For the DP releases the downloaded package simply contains a DMG which can be restored to a USB drive or DVD easily or you could do a network install from another Mac using disk sharing.

Re: Mac OS X Lion: Coming In July For $29

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post #109

I don't mean to be off topic, but I really feel, although this is an improvement on the price of Windows upgrade, I think that there is nothing in this release that would drive me off any Linux, particularly a rolling release distribution. I know that for certain fields, such as multimedia, apple offers a lot, but with new offerings such as Gnome 3, a mature KDE 4, and Ubuntu's unity, for the standard desktop user or…

Would you say this is the year of Linux on the desktop?

No, please just ask and I will remove this comment, I am not here to try and cause agitation, I was just pointing out the changing landscape and how a release such as Lion, no longer has the impact that such a release would have had perhaps 4-5 years ago.

I am not here to declare that Linux on the desktop is beyond these offerings, I am far more realistic and believe more in the fact that its prevalence in other markets (embedded among others) is where the true potential is.

Re: Mac OS X Lion: Coming In July For $29

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Cherrypick, much? :) It seems that all your examples are cases where interoperability with or working like the Windows version is the primary required feature. For years after iTunes, there was no reasonable (GUI) alternative for MP3 playing, at the same time that iTunes was awful if you had a large, diverse collection without ID3 tags.

If you have a large diverse collection without ID3 tags you are pretty much fucked anyway. folders is extremely limited in sorting music which leaves you what? playlists?

I've got my entire music collection (100 Gigs) in folders (mostly genre/artist/album) and have never felt "fucked". Sure there are strange things I can't do (give me all music recorded in 1986, that isn't jazz and that I haven't listened to in more than 6 month), but I've honestly never felt a desire to do that. So while folders may be extremely limited in some sense I've never run into those limits and can't really think of any realistic limits I might run into.

Re: Mac OS X Lion: Coming In July For $29

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Not sure why below comment is dead. The account seems ok and not hell banned. Was it flagged to death? If so, anyone who flagged it,why? dsplittgerber 24 minutes ago | link [dead] Anyone else surprised by how many hugely popular apps Apple is going to kill with new Lion/iOS? Instapaper built-into Safari now, all kinds of messanger apps killed by iMessage, some of those photo apps going down the drain as well, Reminde…

This is par for the course with Apple. I remember back in the day there was this super popular shareware app called Aaron that gave System 7 users a System 8 looking theme. Keep in mind this was the dark ages of Apple. Aaron evolved into Kaleidoscope. A general purpose shareware theme manager that was met with enthusiasm by the Mac community. Kaleidoscope was synonymous with themes on Mac OS. http://www.kaleidoscope.…

Also:

Antler Notes vs. Stickies (System 7.5):

http://jens.mooseyard.com/1997/04/they-made-me-an-offer-i-co...

Re: Mac OS X Lion: Coming In July For $29

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post #143

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If you have a large diverse collection without ID3 tags you are pretty much fucked anyway. folders is extremely limited in sorting music which leaves you what? playlists?

I've got my entire music collection (100 Gigs) in folders (mostly genre/artist/album) and have never felt "fucked". Sure there are strange things I can't do (give me all music recorded in 1986, that isn't jazz and that I haven't listened to in more than 6 month), but I've honestly never felt a desire to do that. So while folders may be extremely limited in some sense I've never run into those limits and can't really…

There are quite common things which are impossible or rather clumsy to do with folders, for example produce a view by specific composers then a view by performers. Can not be done with folders unless suffer large amount of duplicates.

If you listen to your music in a rigid way where folders works fine then obviously iTunes and other music management software are of no use to you. But you are not typical.

Re: Mac OS X Lion: Coming In July For $29

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>This isn’t actually the first time Apple has offered an OS upgrade at a steep discount compared to its Windows rival (which typically runs over $100) — Snow Leopard made its debut at $29. A pretty flawed apples to oranges comparison. OS X is more similar to bios updates... you buy the hardware, the vendor makes money off it and gives away the software. With Microsoft, you're paying the OEM money for the hardware(wit…

I have 10.5 and held off on purchasing 10.6 because I was waiting for 10.7. It bums me out that now I'll need to purchase both 10.6 and 10.7, regardless of how much the Windows upgrades cost. Judging from some of the tweets & comments I'm seeing elsewhere, a lot of other consumers are bummed too.

if you can afford a mac, i guess you can afford saving 0.80 dollars a month for buying a $30 OS update every 2 years.

Re: Mac OS X Lion: Coming In July For $29

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If you have a large diverse collection without ID3 tags you are pretty much fucked anyway. folders is extremely limited in sorting music which leaves you what? playlists?

Well, I used folders and filenames for years, from 1998ish through June 2003. Worked fine; I mostly wanted to listen to entire albums, which mapped well to folders. Then I got a Mac, and pointed iTunes at my music without backing it up first (because, after all iTunes was an MP3 player , and why would it write to my MP3 collection?!). Oops. Later I found that there was some import option I shouldn't have checked, and…

I agree the default option should be "DO NOT TOUCH"

And about the single track folders, tick "part of a compilation" in info box will do the trick.

Keep listen to Pandora while it last.

Re: Mac OS X Lion: Coming In July For $29

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I have 10.5 and held off on purchasing 10.6 because I was waiting for 10.7. It bums me out that now I'll need to purchase both 10.6 and 10.7, regardless of how much the Windows upgrades cost. Judging from some of the tweets & comments I'm seeing elsewhere, a lot of other consumers are bummed too.

if you can afford a mac, i guess you can afford saving 0.80 dollars a month for buying a $30 OS update every 2 years.

Admittedly, I'm cheap. I prized my $400 Dell Vostro for years and reluctantly switched to a Mac because I was ultimately convinced it was a better machine for software development. I ended up buying a used MBPro for ~$800.

Re: Mac OS X Lion: Coming In July For $29

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post #124

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If you have a large diverse collection without ID3 tags you are pretty much fucked anyway. folders is extremely limited in sorting music which leaves you what? playlists?

>playlists? Yeah, nobody would want to use those. They especially wouldn't want to build a playlist on the fly with their ipod.

iTunes is amazing at creating smart playlists, but it can get a bit complicated.

iOS devices all have to ability to create playlist on the fly to.

But building playlist without proper ID3 info can get tedious real quick and endless playlist building is not a solution to the problem of quickly populating a queue on a whim.

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