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Google Analytics: Stop feeding the beast

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Re: Google Analytics: Stop feeding the beast

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Ditched GA about two years ago now and haven't looked back. And haven't missed those upsell emails every time they released a new feature either.

Instead we employ a QA to check everything from spelling and grammar, to page links and downloads and everything else in between and they've been worth every penny.

Customer satisfaction and retention is up and I'm even getting better night's sleep! (I kid you not)

Re: Google Analytics: Stop feeding the beast

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Here's a crazy idea: Don't use analytics at all but focus on your product. If your success relies solely on "improving conversions" by tracking your users and then changing the position and color of your "Checkout" button then maybe try setting yourself apart such that customers want to buy your product even despite an obnoxious purchasing flow. Only then start optimizing it. This is part of why costco is so success…

I echo your sentiments on Costco but this is an argument for different metrics, not an argument against analytics. There is no chance that Costco doesn't use analytics. They might not A/B test their online button colors for highest conversion rate, but I'd bet they have their own set of analytics to determine product quality, sales, returns, viability, etc.

They're even hiring an analytics manager!

https://phf.tbe.taleo.net/phf02/ats/careers/v2/viewRequisiti...

Re: Google Analytics: Stop feeding the beast

#173

Interestingly, there was an article in the Swedish media this morning basically calling out a number of Swedish governmental ministries for violating Swedish privacy law. The violations were all the use of google analytics.

Something similar happened in the UK sometime ago, but it was mostly brushed off.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/10/no-10-request-...

Re: Google Analytics: Stop feeding the beast

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Here's a crazy idea: Don't use analytics at all but focus on your product. If your success relies solely on "improving conversions" by tracking your users and then changing the position and color of your "Checkout" button then maybe try setting yourself apart such that customers want to buy your product even despite an obnoxious purchasing flow. Only then start optimizing it. More serious thoughts: Google Analytics i…

This is so reductionist I really can't believe this is the top comment. What if your "product" is a web or app service that depends on user interactions? How can you actually know what your users are doing or how they're using your product if you can't track it?

Re: Google Analytics: Stop feeding the beast

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you being facetious? Everyone has the time to roll out their own analytics? Where do you work, Google?

I see even HN needs '/s' . You'd think stating that marketing doesn't matter and everyone has time to develop analytics would trigger some sarcasm detection somewhere

There are others in the thread repeating that sentiment in a much more serious tone, that’s why I had to ask.

Re: Google Analytics: Stop feeding the beast

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Here's a crazy idea: Don't use analytics at all but focus on your product. If your success relies solely on "improving conversions" by tracking your users and then changing the position and color of your "Checkout" button then maybe try setting yourself apart such that customers want to buy your product even despite an obnoxious purchasing flow. Only then start optimizing it. More serious thoughts: Google Analytics i…

> Don't use analytics at all but focus on your product. Huh? Analytics is how you focus on your product. By instrumenting your product with analytics, you can find out if customers are using your new useful feature or if they can't find it. If they're performing a task quickly because it's easy, or slowly because they're struggling with the UX. And you find out that customers on a certain mobile device are suffering…

> Analytics is about the entire product experience

i feel like there is a underapreciated difference in wether you are selling a physical product/service or a digital one.

both benefit from focus on the product, but anlytics on the website is vastly more helpful if your product essentially _IS_ the web-ux.

Re: Google Analytics: Stop feeding the beast

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Google analytics is great. It has its issues, but overall 1. They've built a working product that is easy to connect and use 2. It fits to a lot of use cases and barely has issues 3. Easy to start using, no engineering overhead 4. I don't understand what the author trying to say. Should google be a charity? Or should they stop making good product? Or does the author want to cover the cost of all the other product tha…

HN brain in a nutshell: big tech == evil

Re: Google Analytics: Stop feeding the beast

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Here's a crazy idea: Don't use analytics at all but focus on your product. If your success relies solely on "improving conversions" by tracking your users and then changing the position and color of your "Checkout" button then maybe try setting yourself apart such that customers want to buy your product even despite an obnoxious purchasing flow. Only then start optimizing it. More serious thoughts: Google Analytics i…

This is so reductionist I really can't believe this is the top comment. What if your "product" is a web or app service that depends on user interactions? How can you actually know what your users are doing or how they're using your product if you can't track it?

on the other hand: producers of physical products very often don't get to know what there customers are doing with it.

just saying

Re: Google Analytics: Stop feeding the beast

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post #3

Here's a crazy idea: Don't use analytics at all but focus on your product. If your success relies solely on "improving conversions" by tracking your users and then changing the position and color of your "Checkout" button then maybe try setting yourself apart such that customers want to buy your product even despite an obnoxious purchasing flow. Only then start optimizing it. More serious thoughts: Google Analytics i…

How in the world has this been upvoted lol

not everyone sells UX of a website?

Re: Google Analytics: Stop feeding the beast

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post #106

Google analytics is great. It has its issues, but overall 1. They've built a working product that is easy to connect and use 2. It fits to a lot of use cases and barely has issues 3. Easy to start using, no engineering overhead 4. I don't understand what the author trying to say. Should google be a charity? Or should they stop making good product? Or does the author want to cover the cost of all the other product tha…

HN brain in a nutshell: big tech == evil

monopoly == evil
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