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American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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I won’t be able to provide information that other people haven’t already but I have encountered one of these “aircraft”. I own a small light sport airplane and was flying between UT and CA at 12.5k ft and saw one of these pass 1,000ft below me not far outside of Reno. ATC didn’t call it so presumably they didn’t see it on radar. It was exactly as described, small, shiny, cylindrical, no wings, and fast. If I could gu…

In the off chance you pass one again, would you consider mounting go-pro's on your plane, or one of those fancier ones that gets 360 degrees some bush-plane youtubers are using? I don't have a link handy to the model of camera.

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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(a) They are common, lots of stories. (b) Completely impossible to get good video about them. a & b => bs

Reports of rare marine phenomenon such as rogue waves ¹ were widely dismissed as “tall” (no pun intended) tales by sailors – and more recently – surfers. It wasn’t until the last few decades that photography and marine instruments provided empirical evidence for their existence. I wouldn’t be too quick to dismiss anecdotal reports of simalarly rare and hard-to-capture aeronautical pheonmenon. 1. https://en.wikipedia.…

> wasn’t until the last few decades that photography and marine instruments provided empirical evidence for their existence.

Exactly my point. There are so many cameras in the air that you should trust less and less these ufo stories.

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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post #153

I won’t be able to provide information that other people haven’t already but I have encountered one of these “aircraft”. I own a small light sport airplane and was flying between UT and CA at 12.5k ft and saw one of these pass 1,000ft below me not far outside of Reno. ATC didn’t call it so presumably they didn’t see it on radar. It was exactly as described, small, shiny, cylindrical, no wings, and fast. If I could gu…

(a) They are common, lots of stories. (b) Completely impossible to get good video about them. a & b => bs

How do you take a good video of a fast moving... missile?

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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That's what they used to say about rocks falling from the sky. Right up until 1803. https://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/L/L_Aigle.html "Ernst Florens Chladni, was the first to publish (in 1794) the idea that meteorites might be rocks that originated not from Earth, but from space....The scientific community of the time responded with resistance and mockery." - Wikipedia

None of that is relevant today. Cameras are everywhere. External cameras, GoPros in cockpits. Ball lightning stories disappeared with mobile phones. Ufo stories are also disappearing. It's less and less likely that everybody just happens to miss opportunity of taking pictures.

Cars disappeared for smartphone users too: https://www.amongtech.com/car-accidents-caused-by-smartphone...

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what they used to say about rocks falling from the sky. Right up until 1803. https://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/L/L_Aigle.html "Ernst Florens Chladni, was the first to publish (in 1794) the idea that meteorites might be rocks that originated not from Earth, but from space....The scientific community of the time responded with resistance and mockery." - Wikipedia

None of that is relevant today. Cameras are everywhere. External cameras, GoPros in cockpits. Ball lightning stories disappeared with mobile phones. Ufo stories are also disappearing. It's less and less likely that everybody just happens to miss opportunity of taking pictures.

Not really. I don't even have a camera on my car and most of the people I know don't either. Even with the accessibility of cameras it's hard to capture events that take place in a small time interval. That's why when someone sees something momentarily spectacular (like seeing a person throw a basketball into the hoop from behind their back at half court) they say things like "I wish I caught that on camera"

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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How come aircrafts are not equipped with color video for later visual confirmation? If a pilot claimed something, we can at least see what they are describing as well, and maybe more details that they didn't catch with video. Also are commercial pilots not allowed to carry smartphones? Did the pilots not record outside the cockpit window with their phones? Hearing of this UFO is pretty exciting, and it would be even…

Good idea, give pilots smartphones so they have less time looking around.

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Why is everyone arguing about stuff in this thread instead of focusing on the less-interesting but still super concerning fact that something flew "right over the top" of a commercial airplane? Even in the least-interesting case of it probably a US test thing of some kind - wtf is it doing flying in commercial airspace? Can you imagine if it had hit the plane?

Yeah, that’s my question. I’ll assume someone (whether the US government, Elon Musk, or whoever) was testing a rocket of some sort. Why the hell was it in the same area as a commercial flight? I’ll add another stupid human error to my list of things to be afraid of while on a plane.

Elon Musk actually commented that he had no idea of this thing's existence on Joe Rogan's podcast

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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This seems like the perfect situation to test how quickly you would like to be arrested.

If I understand the GP correctly, it’s hard to arrest the Russian or Chinese Air Force.

aye - or given how low cost/portable drones are now - any agents of those governments ( or other governments ).

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

#260

Fwiw, the skies over Arizona were loaded with contrails today. Very unusual to see this kind of volume. All of the aircraft appeared to be heading due west in the direction of Las Vegas (Nellis AFB) and southern Cal. The last time I witnessed this degree of activity was in early 2020, one day after the drone strike on Iranian General Soleimani. The whole sky was a crisscross mesh of expanding vapor. In these circumst…

Most military aircraft don't fly any faster than civilian airliners. In fact many of them are slower.

Fighters can reach supersonic speeds in some circumstances but seldom do so outside of controlled exercise areas.

You can't reliability differentiate between civilian and military aircraft just by watching contrails from the ground.

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