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Bitfinex and Tether required to end all trading activity with New Yorkers

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Re: Bitfinex and Tether required to end all trading activity with New Yorkers

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I didn't say Coinbase was doing $210 billion 24h volume. I said Coinbase is reporting that Tether had $210 billion 24h volume. It's right there on the Coinbase tether page. https://www.coinbase.com/price/tether

ya that is wrong. not sure where coinbase is getting their data from. keep in mind the total crypto market cap is 1.5 triilion. so tether alone doing 200b is an absurd statement. Total daily volume across all exchanges is only just getting to 50b these days

“Every exchange and crypto market reporting Tether volume is wrong.”

Some person on the internet, with no source to back the claim.

Re: Bitfinex and Tether required to end all trading activity with New Yorkers

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Buy all the non perishables, non obsoletables you're going to need for the next decade. Buy them in discounted bulk for and extra return. Bonus: capital gains tax free!

So invest in toilet paper?

Yup materialize your savings for a 2% a year compounding tax free return.

Urban dwellers might be more limited but for people who have unused or underused space, this is a way to get a return on that space.

Salt, granulated sugar, powdered sugar, brown sugar, socks, underwear, under-shirts, vinegar, soap bars, toothbrushes, razor blades, feminine products, toilet paper, paper towels, napkins, trash bags, freezer bags, sandwich bags, foil paper, parchment paper, plastic wrap, wax paper, candles, matches, diapers, pet supplies (litter, etc.), gardening supplies, building supplies, repair supplies, medical supplies, fire wood, wood pellets, long lasting appliances and furniture, kitchenware, dinnerware, sheets and pillowcases, blankets,comforter,bedspreads, Maintenance, renovations, Efficiency upgrades.

Some liquid soaps and chemicals have a limited shelf life of just a couple of years so it might be better to avoid unless you know the shelf life. Also be careful buying more than you need which can lead to waste. Be careful being wasteful just because you have lots of stuff at home. Buying alcohol ahead of time in bulk works if you have the discipline not to drink more. Also to get a good return you need to use the full life of your stuff before replacing from your stash, not replace early because it's right there.

There is also a macroeconomic benefit to this approach. It can get the economy out of keynesian recessions when people save by buying.

Re: Bitfinex and Tether required to end all trading activity with New Yorkers

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> - Even if everything alleged were true, it really wouldn't be a drop in the bucket compared to the kind of shenanigans central banks have been pulling for centuries. If the crypto-currency market is illegitimate due to money printing by Tether, then so is the conventional financial system due to quantitive easing by the Federal Reserve and other central banks around the world. Currently Tether is printing $3.5B wor…

Tether is using Deltec Bank and Trust in the Bahamas. Deltec's CEO actually did an interview where he responded to the Tether fraud claims: https://unchainedpodcast.com/is-tether-a-fraud-its-bank-says... When Tether started, most financial institutions weren't open to working with cryptocurrency companies, but the fact that it's still the top stablecoin by value is troubling since there are plenty of better options n…

I'm sure it'll get me flagged as a naysayer, but this raises more questions than it answers (https://www.coindesk.com/tether-bank-deltec-stablecoin-reser...):

> "Every tether is backed by a reserve and their reserve is more than what is in circulation," said Gregory Pepin, Deltec Bank's deputy CEO.

What business does the bank have in auditing Tethers? Why would they care? They're just holding funds.

> “We can see it firsthand, so I can confirm that.”

That to me more reads like Deltec is heavily involved in the actual day-to-day operations at Bitfinex/Tether. Which wouldn't be surprising - after all, remember when Bitfinex and Tether were claimed to be entirely separate and independent entities.

It's a little bit of a stretch to say that Bitfinex has been able to get Deltec on board with keeping this all going by providing a "partnership" above and beyond the usual "banking relationship", but that's very much the vibe I get from all this, and as I said, to me, it just increases the sketchiness of everything.

Oh, and WTF, I watched the video of the interview with the "Deputy CEO" of Deltec Bank, self-described as a "50-year-old bank [whose] customers range from asset managers to high-net-worth individuals"

It's a damn "kid" who looks to be 30 at most, sitting in his gamer seat with red slashes in the black, wearing a Razer gaming headset.

He has almost no photos on the internet, his LinkedIn profile is full of multiple spelling errors ("Independance Weath Management"), who claims to be a Professor of Finance at a University in Lebanon (a year after graduating from a Lausanne University) while working for numerous Swiss funds, oh and in Jacksonville, Florida, simultaneously.

How the hell are people taking this seriously?!?

EDIT: He's 33.

So he apparently graduated with a Masters in Science from HEC Lausanne when he was FIFTEEN. I'm sorry, I'm crying now with laughter.

Sources:

- https://wallmine.com/nasdaq/tenx/officer/2087842/gregory-pep...

- https://www.linkedin.com/public-profile/in/gregory-pepin-0a8...

Re: Bitfinex and Tether required to end all trading activity with New Yorkers

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> - Even if everything alleged were true, it really wouldn't be a drop in the bucket compared to the kind of shenanigans central banks have been pulling for centuries. If the crypto-currency market is illegitimate due to money printing by Tether, then so is the conventional financial system due to quantitive easing by the Federal Reserve and other central banks around the world. Currently Tether is printing $3.5B wor…

Tether is using Deltec Bank and Trust in the Bahamas. Deltec's CEO actually did an interview where he responded to the Tether fraud claims: https://unchainedpodcast.com/is-tether-a-fraud-its-bank-says... When Tether started, most financial institutions weren't open to working with cryptocurrency companies, but the fact that it's still the top stablecoin by value is troubling since there are plenty of better options n…

And the Bahamas does annual reports on the total amount of reserves its banks hold, and the government numbers aren't close to what Tether claims to deposit in Deltec, even if Deltec were the only bank in the Bahamas.

Re: Bitfinex and Tether required to end all trading activity with New Yorkers

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Considering the meteoric rise of BTC is tied so deeply to Tether issuances, it sounds an awful lot like you’re trying to convince us the emperor really has clothes.

> Considering the meteoric rise of BTC is tied so deeply to Tether issuances Got evidence for that? Because printing USDT after BTC went up is not a manipulation, but a liquidity boost. Let's not forget that USDT isn't the only stablecoin in town, it's ratio is actually decreasing, all the way from 3k to 50k.

As a matter of fact,

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jofi.12903

Re: Bitfinex and Tether required to end all trading activity with New Yorkers

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What’s your recommendation for least-worse inflation hedge?

I'm mostly kidding... Buy forever stamps from USPS. As they raise the price of postage, your stamps will go up in value, and then you can sell them for a profit! This is probably a terrible idea, but it makes me giggle. Now I'm imaging some sort of push on r/wallstreetbets to YOLO on stamps, posting insane strategies on how to predict when the price of postage will go up, by how much, and how liquid the market is for…

There's a quaint and quirky thing in the UK called a premium bond, which you can buy and which the government guarantees to buy back from you at its initial fixed value (1 bond costs 1 British pound). Every month, a lottery system pays out prizes to holders of bond numbers, as chosen by "ERNIE" - "Electronic Random Number Indicator Equipment".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premium_Bond

Re: Bitfinex and Tether required to end all trading activity with New Yorkers

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Madoff’s fraud took decades to unravel, too. You’d have looked silly declining to invest there, until the collapse.

Madoff took in large sums of money, gave out little and lied about solvency. Tether is 1/30th the market cap of bitcoin, yet there is a magical belief (based on anonymous articles) that it's the primary source of price levitation. If true, Grayscale would have this same power.

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Re: Bitfinex and Tether required to end all trading activity with New Yorkers

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> - Even if everything alleged were true, it really wouldn't be a drop in the bucket compared to the kind of shenanigans central banks have been pulling for centuries. If the crypto-currency market is illegitimate due to money printing by Tether, then so is the conventional financial system due to quantitive easing by the Federal Reserve and other central banks around the world. Currently Tether is printing $3.5B wor…

Tether is using Deltec Bank and Trust in the Bahamas. Deltec's CEO actually did an interview where he responded to the Tether fraud claims: https://unchainedpodcast.com/is-tether-a-fraud-its-bank-says... When Tether started, most financial institutions weren't open to working with cryptocurrency companies, but the fact that it's still the top stablecoin by value is troubling since there are plenty of better options n…

You mean this interview?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/l5m2my/gregory_pe...

See my previous comments, the Deltec Deputy CEO claims that he was simultaneously Professor of Finance in a Lebanon University, administering Swiss investment funds, oh and working for a company in Jacksonville FL. He gave his interview from his gaming setup, and talked all about seeing all the Tethers personally from their operations (Why? You're just their bank).

You're going to forgive me on being a little skeptical here.

Especially when his LinkedIn has him graduating HEC Lausanne in 2001 with a Masters in Science...

when he was fifteen...

Funnily enough, Deltec bank removed him from their website when this interview was published, then re-added them when people asked questions, and then arranged a very quick website complete "redesign" (I use that word lightly - this looks like a WordPress template that they've struggled to fill with any content whatsoever - most of the pages are effectively empty, many of the buttons to "learn more" are not linked to anywhere).

This is such a scam.

Re: Bitfinex and Tether required to end all trading activity with New Yorkers

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Is this the first official ruling on tether that shows it isn’t backed 1:1 by the US dollar? That has long been speculated, but if this is the first official verification how does that affect the Market. Especially the self dealing of Bitfinex.

The market doesn't care. Hasn't cared for years now, just look at the Kraken USDT/USD market which is freely tradable. Tethers are mostly backed by USD - no 100% but that's because some funds were seized due to regulatory scrutiny, not because they disappeared.

I am not sure why I should trust kraken, but even if I trusted them completely, this only proves tether has enough liquidity to maintain their peg, not that they are "mostly backed." That is to say, it only puts a relatively small bound on their reserve ratio.

Re: Bitfinex and Tether required to end all trading activity with New Yorkers

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I've been following Tether for quite a long time. I have no absolute proof it is a scam but the writing is on the wall. Here are some facts. - The current Market Cap of USDT is 34 Billion Dollars. It was 4B this time last year. Since the value is pegged this means there has been an influx of cash of 30 B into this shady company in the last year alone. Who invested this money? We have no idea since Tether doesn't disc…

Almost all fiat deposits into Bitfinex create USDT.

Thats an additional fact that the amount is in line with the amounts that would be deposited into any big exchange.

If Coinbase minted USDC whenever someone deposited, you would see the same kind of growth.

The basis of your entire post is assuming impropriety based on pretty normal behavior with the addition of the business quirk of when USDT is created.

The ability for impropriety is a good enough reason to avoid it, and their unilateral willingness to do so without any discussion can reinforce that. But people thought everything you thought since the beginning of Tether in like 2014 or so, but the reality is that it “only went fractional reserve” in 2018. Its kind of like they threw up their hands and said “well people think its a ponzi anyway might as well cover this business debt!” The irony being that the NY AG investigation actually proved that prior to 2018 it functioned exactly as promised, barring their 2017 distress by having nowhere to put their fiat deposits.

But if you assume that it hasnt come crashing down because Bitfinex does what they said, then it still does make sense: crypto prices pump after Tether mints because it is people depositing into the exchange and then buying crypto.

Any way glad USDC and DAI are growing a lot now, which have grown by the same orders of magnitude.

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