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Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

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Re: Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

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Post by ethbr0 »

tanseydavid wrote: post #75
ethbr0 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's typically included on lists because of the implications. One either takes the position (1) child pornography should be allowed to be shared, (2) child pornography should be suppressed, but may be shared, or (3) child pornography cannot be allowed to be shared. (3) obviously requires very different technical solutions (like: no private encryption, ever) than (1).

I fail to see any relevance to a discussion centered around debating implications and boundaries of 'free speech.'

Do you think I should be allowed to possess encryption, through which I could share child pornography with others, without being detected?

Re: Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

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Post by encom »

ojnabieoot wrote: post #72
encom wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, if OP opposes cancel culture, he must be a nazi. There's no other conclusion.

[flagged]

You should move to North Korea. It seems like a place more aligned with your beliefs.

Re: Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

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Post by ojnabieoot »

jojobas wrote: post #74
ojnabieoot wrote: post #30

You can pretend to care about North Korean censorship all you want, but if you name your platform “Pepe,” positively cite 4chan as an influence, and take the time to criticize “cancel culture SJWs” then it’s quite clear what your intentions and motivations are, and who your audience is: you want to create a space run by and for racist pieces of garbage. You don’t actually care about free speech at all, and neither do…

Free speech is a public good in itself. Voltair would not approve of "I might agree with what you're saying but you drew a pepe so you need to be shut down".

“I may disagree with what you say, but I will not write a critical Hacker News comment, since you are a pathological crybaby who interprets any negative remark as an act of censorship.”

Nowhere did I say that the app should be “shut down.” I said it shouldn’t be supported.

Re: Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

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Post by 3np »

aninuth wrote: post #65

This is an interesting project by all means, but I'm curious as to what your goal/vision for this project is. The reason that most online forum-esque services involve some sort of moderation isn't because they give in to the so-called "woke SJW Twitter mob", it's because they want to expand their user bases - a platform cannot host large amounts of sexist content and attract women, it cannot stop taking action agains…

In the post, they mention that each board will be moderated (filtered) by the creator, and the same goes for thread creators. Effectively it comes down to content creation and filters that can live on the client-side.

Any decentralized unauthenticated or federated social network faces the same issues around reputation, moderation and sybil attacks. Matrix, for example, has the same.

I imagine over time we'll get a growing economy of curation markets - users choose their own maintainers for allow/deny-lists and content discovery, effectively allowing them to use these networks in a way that is meaningful to them.

Some of these mechanisms are explored quite heavily by people in the Ethereum space - not necessarily with social networks in mind, but I think these kinds of mechanisms are going to play a more important role in our world in the coming decades (lest we go deeper into centralized control)

Re: Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

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Post by nerdponx »

belimawr wrote: post #23
jimbob45 wrote: post #8

> There is a huge misunderstanding, Pepe the Frog has always been a symbol of resistance in underground culture, it was journalists who decided it was evil without understanding a damn thing. It’s not a symbol of resistance. It’s a glum-looking frog. That’s it. Also this forum doesn’t seem to allow for identifying oneself which precludes it from competing with Parler/Twitter. At best, it can compete with 4ch/8kun but…

First time hearing Pepe as a symbol of resistance. Saw it first as "Feels good man" before it turned into edgy alt-right symbol.

4chan was always kind of the "home" of Pepe memes, so it was kind of natural that the racists, incels, and other "alt-right" denizens of 4chan made (and still make) extensive use of Pepe and consider it "their own" to some extent. But the whole thing about specifically making Pepe into an alt-right symbol was just some shit they stirred up to "troll" the media. It worked, and the stigma stuck.

A lot of Pepe memes also ended up becoming Twitch emotes through BetterTwitchTV and FrankerFaceZ. And a lot of those emotes found their way into Discord chatrooms. In Discord, you can usually tell whether someone is an alt-right person or not by what Pepe emotes they use.

Re: Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

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Post by ccortes »

Ok so according to this you can't delete anything.

What happens then if I want to delete something I posted previously?

Is it free speech if I want to retract something posted by myself but I'm not able to do so?

Is it really free speech if a comment can't be altered/deleted by the owner of it?

Re: Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

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Post by onelovetwo »

ojnabieoot wrote: post #30

You can pretend to care about North Korean censorship all you want, but if you name your platform “Pepe,” positively cite 4chan as an influence, and take the time to criticize “cancel culture SJWs” then it’s quite clear what your intentions and motivations are, and who your audience is: you want to create a space run by and for racist pieces of garbage. You don’t actually care about free speech at all, and neither do…

> You don’t actually care about free speech at all, and neither does anyone who is pretending that this platform will provide a public good.

By creating a project whos intention is entirely focused on that mission?

Re: Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

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Post by drusepth »

encom wrote: post #61

How sadly unsurprising that HN hates free speech. This just proves that we need platforms free of Silicon Valley influence.

Yeah, I wouldn't use this service but I thought the write-up was well-written. I was surprised to see OP flagged until I saw the kind of comments people were leaving on it.
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