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Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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“ The researchers now suggest that social-media platforms should incorporate chess language in their algorithms to avoid future incidents like this.” Or maybe don’t automate banning YouTube channels via nebulous black boxes? Or can advertisers stop being afraid of anything and everything?

> nebulous black boxes

Probably a nitpick, I think you mean "opaque black boxes", you can see things through a nebula.

Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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Not sure what a thinly resourced piece like this is doing so high up on HN. There’s really very little evidence that this has anything to do with racial slurs. From a quick read: last June, the channel was banned for “harmful and dangerous” content. The ban was removed in under 24 hours. YouTube has not confirmed the reason. And yet: > Experts suspect that it was the usage of words like "black" and "white" that confu…

Well, what else might it be? Agadmator is just a chess channel. He does breakdowns of chess games and that’s pretty much it.

The block was for “harmful and dangerous” content. That’s incredibly vague. Even describing a game using aggressive language could fall foul of such a broad filter.

How many times do non-chess channels get caught in this filter? That’s the first question I’d be asking. I have to assume more than zero times. How many chess channels have not been banned by this filter? Again, presumably more than zero. And yet the article makes conclusions with a dataset of 1.

Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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“ The researchers now suggest that social-media platforms should incorporate chess language in their algorithms to avoid future incidents like this.” Or maybe don’t automate banning YouTube channels via nebulous black boxes? Or can advertisers stop being afraid of anything and everything?

> nebulous black boxes Probably a nitpick, I think you mean "opaque black boxes", you can see things through a nebula.

> (of a concept or idea) unclear, vague, or ill-defined.

The other definition of nebulous.

Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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post #3

Not sure what a thinly resourced piece like this is doing so high up on HN. There’s really very little evidence that this has anything to do with racial slurs. From a quick read: last June, the channel was banned for “harmful and dangerous” content. The ban was removed in under 24 hours. YouTube has not confirmed the reason. And yet: > Experts suspect that it was the usage of words like "black" and "white" that confu…

Well, what else might it be? Agadmator is just a chess channel. He does breakdowns of chess games and that’s pretty much it.

There are plenty of other chess channels using the words "black" and "white" to describe each side that have yet to be automatically and mysteriously banned. If it were as simple as usage of the word "black" in the various circumstances that might arise during a discussion about chess, surely some of those would have met the same fate, no?

Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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“ The researchers now suggest that social-media platforms should incorporate chess language in their algorithms to avoid future incidents like this.” Or maybe don’t automate banning YouTube channels via nebulous black boxes? Or can advertisers stop being afraid of anything and everything?

> nebulous black boxes Probably a nitpick, I think you mean "opaque black boxes", you can see things through a nebula.

No, I meant nebulous as in unclear, hazy, or undefined.

Nobody knows what the YouTube algorithm is going to decide is inappropriate next. Their site’s wording is very vague and unclear as well.

You have youtubers censoring swear words now, and people uploading footage from video games like TF2 have had issues before.

Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

#17
Delegating prosecution of possible hate speech to commercial entities was always going to be bad.

Youtube is essentially a public forum with audience of entire countries, where the people who run it choose what gets amplified, what gets shunned and what get outright blocked.

Who would be happy with a private entity deciding the future mindsets at this scale?

Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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post #3

Not sure what a thinly resourced piece like this is doing so high up on HN. There’s really very little evidence that this has anything to do with racial slurs. From a quick read: last June, the channel was banned for “harmful and dangerous” content. The ban was removed in under 24 hours. YouTube has not confirmed the reason. And yet: > Experts suspect that it was the usage of words like "black" and "white" that confu…

It’s so high because it fits general HN narrative of evil big tech.

Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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“ The researchers now suggest that social-media platforms should incorporate chess language in their algorithms to avoid future incidents like this.” Or maybe don’t automate banning YouTube channels via nebulous black boxes? Or can advertisers stop being afraid of anything and everything?

> nebulous black boxes Probably a nitpick, I think you mean "opaque black boxes", you can see things through a nebula.

"Nebulous" can also mean "indistinct" or "vague." The OP used it correctly, though you could argue "nebulous black box" is redundant.

Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, what else might it be? Agadmator is just a chess channel. He does breakdowns of chess games and that’s pretty much it.

The block was for “harmful and dangerous” content. That’s incredibly vague. Even describing a game using aggressive language could fall foul of such a broad filter. How many times do non-chess channels get caught in this filter? That’s the first question I’d be asking. I have to assume more than zero times. How many chess channels have not been banned by this filter? Again, presumably more than zero. And yet the arti…

Have you watched adagmator? He doesn’t really use aggressive language
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