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United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by Fogest »

wyxuan wrote: post #229
banana_giraffe wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in the same boat .. actually, I'm more set in my ways, if the title doesn't tell me what it's about, I don't bother looking at the thumbnail. Here are some titles from recent videos: I REALLY Love Building Computers!! Never seen one of these before... Sorry. Your gaming laptop sucks now. Maybe upgrading is pointless….. Linus was right. It's such click-bait, and so annoying. It's sad about LTT too. I can't find it…

They don't do the clickbait titles or thumbnails on floatplane(their in house version of youtube), and will often edit the titles if it's too clickbait-ey

Does something like that include their videos from their other channels too?

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by nyolfen »

ficklepickle wrote: post #106
secfirstmd wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a European who tuned in to US News for the US election I thought that was crazy. I'd watch a few of the right media orgs to see what they were saying and then stay on CNN/MSNBC etc for most of it. It's mad how so much of it every hour was essentially people just regurgitating stuff to fill the time. I mean OK what's happening is important but if you can't fill the airtime why not shift to other news (as in everyth…

Fear makes things memorable, makes it hard to turn away. It's an evolutionary thing. If my mom calls me after she has been watching that shit, she sounds strung out on stimulants. Agitated, easily angered. She is normally a calm, fairly rational person. It's fear mongering and it exists because it is effective. If one gets caught up in it, it can be hard to take a step back and realize what is going on. One might hea…

reminded me of a post i saw earlier today:

> Occasionally watching terrestrial/mainstream TV is equivalent to dipping your head back into the Cave, except, the shadows no longer make any sense, and yet everyone is entrapped by them. It's noisy, bright and hellish, you can't go back, you're in a different world now.

once you can curate information feeds and investigate topics in depth on demand, not to mention adblocking, watching tv at all feels like a psychic assault

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by Fogest »

banana_giraffe wrote: post #227
Fogest wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BREAKING NEWS: More people died of COVID today. I see see often headlines in my Google news feed saying something along those lines. I've stopped clicking on YouTube videos that give me no idea what they are going to be in the thumbnail/title. For example on Linus Tech Tips second channel ShortCiruit a good chunk of their videos do this. Latest one from 3 years ago in my sub box "I almost hurt myself open this...." a…

I'm in the same boat .. actually, I'm more set in my ways, if the title doesn't tell me what it's about, I don't bother looking at the thumbnail. Here are some titles from recent videos: I REALLY Love Building Computers!! Never seen one of these before... Sorry. Your gaming laptop sucks now. Maybe upgrading is pointless….. Linus was right. It's such click-bait, and so annoying. It's sad about LTT too. I can't find it…

Oh yeah I can't really blame them. I don't feel upset personally at them for it, I feel upset at YouTube for making these clickbaity titles do better than more normal titles. It's unfortunate because this is likely actually just machine learning realizing that a lot of us humans use our pea brains to decide if we want to watch a video and thus often times those clickbait videos get more clicks. But I really wished they put some manual tweaks in place to make the user experience a bit more enjoyable and stop promoting those clickbait videos in recommendations so that creators didn't feel the need to do it.

I mentioned it in my other comment, but it feels like we need a ClickBaitBlock similar to SponsorBlock which uses user generated timestamps to skip sponsor blocks in videos. Could be a user generated/voted on new title that gets used. I'd actually use something like that too. It allows creators to play their YouTube game, but also us avoid the game if we choose to. Hell the extension could even support allowing the video creator to submit their own alternative titles. It would be a neat way to beat YouTube at it's own game.

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by nyolfen »

nl wrote: post #207
dmos62 wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone care to elaborate? I don't understand what he means, but I feel like this is an interesting thread to pull.

Briefly: if you expect 10 failures in 10 years evenly distributed then you would expect 1 per year. If it is a Possion distribution then you'd expect them to bunch up and get years with none, then them concentrated over a few years. Possion distributions usually imply a time factor. That's concerning in this case as it implies maintenance isn't effective.

how would this apply to disparate aircraft on different maintenance cycles?

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by tantalor »

hu3 wrote: post #238
just_steve_h wrote: post #34

Simon (the founder & proprietor of The Aviation Herald) is an incredible force for good in the world. His work on that site, for well over a decade now, is legendary.

Fun fact: the response header [1] of that website suggests it is powered by Apache and Perl. Which is amazing in itself. And it's still responsive despite being #1 on HN. [1] Apache/2.2.17 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.17 OpenSSL/1.0.2r mod_perl/2.0.4 Perl/v5.10.0

Why is that suprising? Serving static content is easy

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by [deleted] »

londons_explore wrote: post #50
ortusdux wrote: post #36

I have wondered in the past if the benefits of a 'jettison damaged engine' feature would outweigh the risks.

I suspect most airframes dont have sufficient spare strength to handle the imbalanced forces of an engine on one wing but not the other during flight.

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Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by interestica »

dheera wrote: post #221

Some honest questions here for experts: 0. Why was the engine flaming in the first video? Why didn't the pilots cut fuel to that engine immediately and use the other engine to land? 1. What is the best way to communicate issues to the pilot if you're a passenger and see something the pilot can't see? For example once I was sitting in the back of the aircraft on Airtran and I saw a screw on the jet loosening and almos…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegworth_air_disaster

- 8 January 1989

- The Kegworth air disaster - British Midland Flight 92, a Boeing 737-400

- Pilots had an engine issue and shut down the good engine by mistake.

> The pilots throttled back the working right engine instead of the malfunctioning left engine. They had no way of visually checking the engines from the cockpit, and the cabin crew — who did not hear the captain refer to the right hand engine in his cabin address — did not inform them that smoke and flames had been seen from the left engine.

> Several passengers sitting near the rear of the plane noticed smoke and sparks coming from the left engine.

> The pilots mistakenly shut down the functioning engine. They selected full thrust from the malfunctioning one and this increased its fuel supply, causing it to catch fire. Of the 126 people aboard, 47 died and 74 sustained serious injuries.

I have no idea what the best way to communicate would be, but this is an example of an incident where it could have saved lives. It would be good if there was a protocol. (Perhaps requiring the captain's address to mention which engine they believe has the issue).

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by rossdavidh »

tantalor wrote: post #245
hu3 wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun fact: the response header [1] of that website suggests it is powered by Apache and Perl. Which is amazing in itself. And it's still responsive despite being #1 on HN. [1] Apache/2.2.17 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.17 OpenSSL/1.0.2r mod_perl/2.0.4 Perl/v5.10.0

Why is that suprising? Serving static content is easy

...and yet, very rarely done. That the correct technology for a news site (static content) was done, is the surprising part.

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by rossdavidh »

GekkePrutser wrote: post #135

That's crazy, in the Netherlands today there was another flight that dropped engine parts (much smaller though, they're said to have been turbine blades) that hit cars and people. It was also an airliner (747-400). Considering how rare an occurrence is, it's really weird to have both happen on the exact same day. https://www.airlive.net/breaking-turbine-blades-of-a-boeing-... By the way I'm surprised that fire keeps…

There is a saying, something like "once is bad luck, twice is a coincidence, three times is enemy action". So, if you get more than two big planes crashing in the same day, it's likely something like Al Qaeda (sp?) on 2001/09/11. If it's two planes, it's likely bad luck.

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by jrockway »

banana_giraffe wrote: post #227
Fogest wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BREAKING NEWS: More people died of COVID today. I see see often headlines in my Google news feed saying something along those lines. I've stopped clicking on YouTube videos that give me no idea what they are going to be in the thumbnail/title. For example on Linus Tech Tips second channel ShortCiruit a good chunk of their videos do this. Latest one from 3 years ago in my sub box "I almost hurt myself open this...." a…

I'm in the same boat .. actually, I'm more set in my ways, if the title doesn't tell me what it's about, I don't bother looking at the thumbnail. Here are some titles from recent videos: I REALLY Love Building Computers!! Never seen one of these before... Sorry. Your gaming laptop sucks now. Maybe upgrading is pointless….. Linus was right. It's such click-bait, and so annoying. It's sad about LTT too. I can't find it…

I am interested in how he A/B tests these things. I've never seen non-clickbait LMG videos, so if they're constantly testing they must not be up for long. Or they test on their forums or something like that.

(I know it sounds like I'm confirming the theory that videos don't get recommended if they're not clickbaity, but I only rarely get LTT recommendations in general. I do specifically go to the channel and look for things to watch every so often, however, and it's there that I don't see any non-clickbait test versions.)

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