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Coinbase valued above $100B, ahead of direct listing

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Re: Coinbase valued above $100B, ahead of direct listing

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post #68

I am afraid that we might be on the verge of another dot com level bubble. It's interesting to see how one inflated asset is propping up another. Tesla - which rose by 1000% in 2020, bought bitcoin. Ark Invest Etfs - some of the biggest actively managed etfs, hold significant amount of Tesla, and with the profit generated from Tesla's phenomenal rise, they are investing more on bitcoin. I believe in the future of cry…

the nice thing with that bubble is that because it is manufactured by the Fed, you have an easy signal for when it has reached its top, just look at the weekly fed balance sheet: https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/bst_recenttren... And right now they are still printing more and more.

Fed contributes, but it's hardly a singular explainer for the current market mania.

The chart you shared hasn't even changed significantly since July.

The Fed didn't print enough money to buoy Tesla 1000% or send Bitcoin up 100% in a month. There's no mechanism directing money straight from the Fed into the riskiest assets. Market mania has taken hold.

Re: Coinbase valued above $100B, ahead of direct listing

#72
I think a bet on coinbase, not bitcoin is the best bet for anyone who is looking toward betting for a future of cryptocurrencies.

Bitcoin has a lot going against it- the tether fraud stuff, connections to money laundering, slow transaction speed.

Coinbase is tied to none of those things, and has the unique advantage of having a reputation in both security and compliance in an industry full of greenhorns.

Re: Coinbase valued above $100B, ahead of direct listing

#73
post #22

No matter if you think we're in a bubble or if this valuation supports your view that we are in a bubble, at the end of the day we are all losers who have decided to spend our precious time on a Friday night glued to HN.

Covid makes it harder to be someone who has plans on a Friday night. Don't be so hard on yourself, it gets better.

I was on hacker news on a Friday night long before Covid! And I likely will be after as well.

Re: Coinbase valued above $100B, ahead of direct listing

#74

I am afraid that we might be on the verge of another dot com level bubble. It's interesting to see how one inflated asset is propping up another. Tesla - which rose by 1000% in 2020, bought bitcoin. Ark Invest Etfs - some of the biggest actively managed etfs, hold significant amount of Tesla, and with the profit generated from Tesla's phenomenal rise, they are investing more on bitcoin. I believe in the future of cry…

I think Flooz coins had Super Bowl ads at the time.

Re: Coinbase valued above $100B, ahead of direct listing

#75

Maybe coinbase stock becomes the next cryptocurrency! One coinbase is one coinbase?

I wouldn't be surprised to see Coinbase stock track bitcoin extremely closely.

There can only ever be 21 million Coinbases

Re: Coinbase valued above $100B, ahead of direct listing

#76
post #67

It doesn't much matter to me if its crypto currency or real goods, when markets, stock exchanges float, I think we're insane. The marketplace should not of itself be valuable. If it is, its extraction of value for the goods/utility being traded. Its rent seeking. The only possible value derives from what is a tax on trades by volume and value, to NOT fund the engine which runs the trades. Sure Lloyd's of London is pr…

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Re: Coinbase valued above $100B, ahead of direct listing

#77
post #54

Ah yes, possibly the 5th company that I wished I joined this past 18 months... Historically there were some exchanges that have been hacked. This caused not only the company to go bankrupt but people losing a lot of money. How does coinbase prevent this from happening? This is very much one of the reasons I will never hold crypto (FYI: I've wrote my own Golang flavour of ethereum blockchain and solidity when it first…

It's not perfect, but I believe Coinbase uses a combination of cold (offline) storage for most of its coins and insurance for the rest. Also, as you probably already know, people should not hold large sums on exchanges if they can use secure their own keys (and wallets) instead. > "Coinbase prioritizes the security of our customer's digital currency through a combination of online “hot storage” and offline “cold” sto…

I'd imagine with SV money and SV knowledge building a secure exchange, with proper cold wallets and processes in place to secure them and manage access, is not that difficult.

I get the impression that a lot of exchanges are (or were in the early days) built by 'enthusiasts' who know just enough tech to be dangerous.

Re: Coinbase valued above $100B, ahead of direct listing

#78

I don't get how everybody is just making a killing right now. What goes up must come down? Are people going to get uber burned? Like somebody who put in 50% of their net worth today, and maybe it drops?

It's happened before, it'll likely happen again: a new high that's multiples of the previous high, months of exuberance, and then a 70%+ drop. 2-3 years of teeth gnashing and accumulation, and repeat the process. It seems to come several months after Bitcoin's halvings.

Re: Coinbase valued above $100B, ahead of direct listing

#79
What about the environmental impact / physical limitations of cryptomining? At this point BTC alone consumes more energy than Argentina (https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-56012952)- will legislators allow this to continue? Will it even be possible for it to continue much further?

Re: Coinbase valued above $100B, ahead of direct listing

#80
post #64

The ICE man is going to pump this so hard. Too bad his wife isn't still on the Senate oversight committee, but it wont matter

ICE man?

Jeffrey Sprecher (wife is Kelly Loeffler). He's the head of the Intercontinental Exchange (ICE) (also chairman of NYSE)

https://ir.theice.com/governance/executive-management-team/d....

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