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Post by bingohbangoh »

OminousWeapons wrote: post #401
bingohbangoh wrote: post #376

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That's if you buy the numbers from China at all. For all we know, China just stopped counting and is accepting whatever new cases or deaths come up. We know they fake other numbers. There's not reason not to think they aren't faking them here. If the news wasn't telling me about the Virus all the time, I would not know there was a "raging" epidemic. I only know one person who contracted the virus among my entire fami…

Show me the data. All existing data points to the fact that the Chinese largely beat this and have handled it in a way that is orders of magnitude more effective than the Americans. That includes anecdata I have coming from internal sources who have no reason to lie. If there was ANY data suggesting otherwise, you would have heard about it: they couldn't contain news about the original outbreak or any follow on outbr…

> Show me the data.

What data am I gonna show you? the only available data says "they defeated it" and it comes from the state government.

>We are basically a year into this with 500K dead and counting. How many citizens need to die before people stop feeling the need to create throwaway accounts to announce that this whole thing is overblown.

Like I said, I literally only know one soul who got this. They recovered in two days. My Aunt & Uncle are emergency room nurses and say that it's overblown _now_ (last April? was definitely bad).

I also don't know anybody who dies from the seasonal flu that claims a lot of people too.

Re: I Miss My Bar

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Post by bingohbangoh »

OminousWeapons wrote: post #404
cullinap wrote: post #385

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Was there a reliable test in Feb 2020 at the time of the WHO article?. Who is to say that they are reporting the numbers correctly? For most of Jan 2020, china claimed covid was mild and wasn't spread human to human (and the WHO backed them up for some time as well).

If your response to me posting sources is going to be "I don't believe any data that emerges from China" then why did you ask for sources?

I guess there aren't any non-chinese sources then?

OP was likely asking because he wanted to see non-Chinese sources on this.

Re: I Miss My Bar

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Post by _uwiz »

michaelt wrote: post #352
_uwiz wrote: post #57

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UK Government 2020: It seems that most people are catching coronavirus in private homes. makes pubs shit to be in with distancing rules and masks etc people start to socialise at home more It seems that most people are catching coronavirus in private homes. closes pubs earlier people start to socialise at home more It seems that most people are catching coronavirus in private homes. close everything else, make meetin…

> It seems that most people are catching coronavirus in private homes. It comes as no surprise to me that, if one person in a household gets infected, everyone else would too. What's the government supposed to do about that? Social distancing on the sofa?

They should probably ban milk.

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Post by tinus_hn »

dTal wrote: post #410
tinus_hn wrote: post #61

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Yeah it’s like ‘30% of infections are happening in bars’ so let’s close the bars. Well now ’30% of infections are happening in gyms’ so let’s close these. Wow now that everything is closed, 60% of infections are happening at home! Let’s restrict that! Its just dumb.

Are you implying that the total number of infections is held constant somehow, and restrictions merely move them around? Because that's false. Restrictions work.

Statistics show a different reality but even then, if everything outside the house is closed it stands to reason that the percentage of infections inside the house would grow by a lot. Simply because there are no others. And it turns out to be pretty tempting, once infections start rising again (despite the restrictions) to use these percentages to impose even more draconian restrictions.

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Post by JohnCohorn »

kelnos wrote: post #411
zo1 wrote: post #381

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That argument means nothing unless you're also able to decide for yourself what to do about something "unsafe". Consent is key, and we're watching in real time as we are turned into human livestock under the care of the "state". It boils down to: "Shut up, stay in your pen". I'm not a crazy person and I agree with herd immunity and generally think we should strive for it and not fight it for the sake of the unhealthy…

> I'm not a crazy person and I agree with herd immunity You're not crazy, but you are incorrect. Herd immunity only works for COVID if a) you can get 60-70% of people infected, and b) getting the disease confers immunity, and for a meaningful amount of time. Getting to that 60-70% in the time frame that most people would tolerate would absolutely destroy our health care system, resulting in many more deaths (due to p…

Citation needed. Every source I’ve heard has said reinfection is rare in both percent and absolute terms. And resistance to the disease is proven to last at least ~9months and estimated by the medically knowledgeable to last much much longer.

Re: I Miss My Bar

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Post by tinus_hn »

michaelt wrote: post #352
_uwiz wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

UK Government 2020: It seems that most people are catching coronavirus in private homes. makes pubs shit to be in with distancing rules and masks etc people start to socialise at home more It seems that most people are catching coronavirus in private homes. closes pubs earlier people start to socialise at home more It seems that most people are catching coronavirus in private homes. close everything else, make meetin…

> It seems that most people are catching coronavirus in private homes. It comes as no surprise to me that, if one person in a household gets infected, everyone else would too. What's the government supposed to do about that? Social distancing on the sofa?

If you think outside the box there’s plenty of things to do:

* quarantine the infected person outside the home * develop protocols to avoid infection of the others * use medication that blocks people from getting infected * use measures to block infecting the others

It is kind of strange that in this situation somehow the government is justified in taking no action. While in others apparently they are obligated to act.

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Post by greedo »

bingohbangoh wrote: post #421
OminousWeapons wrote: post #401

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Show me the data. All existing data points to the fact that the Chinese largely beat this and have handled it in a way that is orders of magnitude more effective than the Americans. That includes anecdata I have coming from internal sources who have no reason to lie. If there was ANY data suggesting otherwise, you would have heard about it: they couldn't contain news about the original outbreak or any follow on outbr…

> Show me the data. What data am I gonna show you? the only available data says "they defeated it" and it comes from the state government. >We are basically a year into this with 500K dead and counting. How many citizens need to die before people stop feeling the need to create throwaway accounts to announce that this whole thing is overblown. Like I said, I literally only know one soul who got this. They recovered i…

"overblown_now" but April was bad? In April we were seeing roughly 2K deaths per day. The average the last month has been over 3K. Or perhaps you live in Taiwan, or NZ where they actually handled COVID properly. But in the US, it's been a shitstorm.

Re: I Miss My Bar

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Post by alpineidyll3 »

jdxcode wrote: post #274
edmundofuentes wrote: post #197

That's our local bar in Monterrey, Mexico [1]! We received some paper flyers with a QR when we had our first lockdown, it's nice seeing it pop up in HN. If anyone's wondering, the bar is still open and operating on a very limited capacity, which has made it much nicer in my opinion. Also, the usual jazz quartet has been replaced with a trio with much younger musicians, since understandably the older musicians don't w…

How is Monterrey for tourism? I've always been more interested in what Mexico is for most Mexicans than the typical tourist spots. It seems that Monterrey is the most "metropolitan" city in Mexico.

Monterrey is lovely. Great mountain to hike, great food, great cheap hotels, safe IMO.

Re: I Miss My Bar

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Post by bingohbangoh »

greedo wrote: post #427
bingohbangoh wrote: post #421

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> Show me the data. What data am I gonna show you? the only available data says "they defeated it" and it comes from the state government. >We are basically a year into this with 500K dead and counting. How many citizens need to die before people stop feeling the need to create throwaway accounts to announce that this whole thing is overblown. Like I said, I literally only know one soul who got this. They recovered i…

"overblown_now" but April was bad? In April we were seeing roughly 2K deaths per day. The average the last month has been over 3K. Or perhaps you live in Taiwan, or NZ where they actually handled COVID properly. But in the US, it's been a shitstorm.

I'm in NYC.

I literally don't know anybody. I'm not being facetious, though I'm incredibly frustrated watching my city melt away, but I just haven't seen it. I would've expected bodies on the sidewalk given how stringent everything has been.

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Post by Something1234 »

edmundofuentes wrote: post #197

That's our local bar in Monterrey, Mexico [1]! We received some paper flyers with a QR when we had our first lockdown, it's nice seeing it pop up in HN. If anyone's wondering, the bar is still open and operating on a very limited capacity, which has made it much nicer in my opinion. Also, the usual jazz quartet has been replaced with a trio with much younger musicians, since understandably the older musicians don't w…

I'm very confused by the pricing on the bar menu. Is it really a $110 for a set of chicken wings or is it in a different currency?
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