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Yes, if they’re helping a deadly virus spread during a pandemic then go ahead. Except unlike you I’m going to accept that, because I don’t want to be stuck at home for another year while morons continue to spread the disease everywhere.

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Yes, I understand how damaging this is for people who are alone. It's also the reason why I've been staying inside since march, to help get this whole thing behind us. Unfortunately some people just don't give a shit.

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It's a great opportunity for non-commercial spontaneity, choosing not between "what bar to go to", but which direction to walk in, and really taking in reality.

In my country, the UK, you can be fined for going a walk to a park if it isn't the closest park to your home. Basically if the police want to be arses to you they can ask you where you are going and why you are where you are, if they dont like your answer you can be fined. There was an article in the BBC a while back about two friends that met up for a walk in the country side, they drove to the meetup point. It wasn…

What I think is under discussed is the fact that we allow for all of these social restrictions measurements but yet air travel across all the EU countries is still allowed.

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Thank you. I don't know what I have to say to explain this to these people. Maybe it's not quite explainable. Restrictions haven't pushed their buttons in the same way. The only way to get this across is to describe all of their needs disappearing. But it doesn't hit the same, and it seems petty. So it goes.

I do not think it's easy to convey to someone what this last year has been like for a lot of people who live alone. As such, I can't really blame the crowd that pushes for more intense lockdown measures - their motives for doing so are generally good. Thankfully the vaccine is being distributed so I'm fairly confident this will all end soon

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I think the psychological toll of the lockdowns in different countries is highly underestimated. I myself have no real economical shortcomings due to the lockdown, but even as a person who is normaly a total loner and who can spend weeks completely alone on a excessive hiking trip i am slowly going crazy... For my wife, who is a highly social character, its even worse. And i am not the only one in this mindset... wha…

Even the term: lockdown

Free societies don’t have lockdowns. Prisons do. One would think that the government would come up with a better term, if only out of self interest.

But then perhaps that’s the point.

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Different countries, and different situations. Living in a big old house in the country with your family? Your life is probably basically the same as it always was. Potentially better, depending on the work situation. Okay, sure, you're not going on as many holidays, and depending on how strict the rules are where you are, dinner parties are off the cards. Living in a flat as a single person in the big exciting city?…

Yes, it's terrible. Even those of us who are "coping" aren't coping terribly well. But ironically the disconnection has made the costs of the disease invisible as well. The zoom funerals. I personally know a couple of people who are now effectively long-term disabled with respiratory issues - well enough to leave hospital, but their previous lifestyle can't come back. The death toll dwarfs every single "disaster" in…

But those mostly killed people still the prime of their lives, while COVID mostly (not entirely, but mostly) advances the Grim Reaper for the old and sick who likely only had a few years anyway. If we measured the toll in disability-adjusted life years instead, the comparison would be quite different.

Cynical thought: COVID lockdowns are extreme largely because unlike most public health problems it affects the rich too, and the decision-makers behind them fall into the high-risk categories.

Sobering thought: if you think COVID-19 is bad now, wait until there's a pandemic of something like the Spanish Flu that does target and kill the young and healthy too.

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I think the psychological toll of the lockdowns in different countries is highly underestimated. I myself have no real economical shortcomings due to the lockdown, but even as a person who is normaly a total loner and who can spend weeks completely alone on a excessive hiking trip i am slowly going crazy... For my wife, who is a highly social character, its even worse. And i am not the only one in this mindset... wha…

Even the term: lockdown Free societies don’t have lockdowns. Prisons do. One would think that the government would come up with a better term, if only out of self interest. But then perhaps that’s the point.

What happened last spring was more or less incarceration. We weren't free. We weren't allowed to leave our houses. The term "lockdown" works quite well.

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#147

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It's a great opportunity for non-commercial spontaneity, choosing not between "what bar to go to", but which direction to walk in, and really taking in reality.

Legally, though, in solitude. In Germany only one person can officially visit another household. I think that is excessive bullshit which is why I do break this rule occasionally.

Good! The relationship between you and the Bundesrepublik is a non-voluntary one, where you never signed a contract with them to follow their laws. It’s a state created by the victors of the last great war. There is no moral responsibility to please people who are in your life involuntarily

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I'm in between the two groups. I live with my partner in a mid-sized house in the centre of a small city. Financially I'm doing great, I've worked throughout and there's literally nothing to spend the money on. My mental health is starting to deteriorate though. I'm not sleeping well most nights, I've turned very much inwards, I feel angry and despairing a lot. Part of the current problem is that we don't have a time…

I'm so confused as to how excess money can be enough fuel for so many people's positive feedback loops that it keeps them working. That already wasn't working for me, but as soon as there was almost nothing to do, I crashed and lost my job.

The part of me that isn't horrified by the death toll or frustrated by the inconveniences in my own life has thought about a million times, "man, I bet we're getting so much interesting data out of this pandemic."

Beyond the bucket of cash dumped onto new vaccine technologies, the international DiRT for all of our emergency preparedness, the data on pandemic spread and transmission reduction strategies, we're also getting all sorts of psych and social data on how people respond to a crisis, to government orders and to isolation. A thousand dissertations and new departments of study will spring from this.

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“Secured the means to reproduction”, sure does sound like something an alien, trying to act human, would say about finding a partner. A lot of people, especially in pub cultures like the UK socialise at their locals, they don’t just go there to aggressively pursue sex with strangers. It’s where they meet their friends after work, where they go to watch sport on the weekend etc.

I know. I live in the UK. I literally started my comment saying how different I am to other people and people keep replying about how not everyone is like me. Is reading comprehension really this bad or am I just rubbish at writing? I'm always happy to learn if it's the latter.

Well when you say this:

> Sites like this suggest there is something attractive about such places even if you take the sex away.

It implies that you don’t know what that “something” is. This is what the replies to your comment are addressing.

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Yes, I understand how damaging this is for people who are alone. It's also the reason why I've been staying inside since march, to help get this whole thing behind us. Unfortunately some people just don't give a shit.

No one has a moral responsibility to not live their lives, if ethics are universal. And no one has the ethical right to hinder others from living and letting live. End these government lockdowns
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