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You don’t have to murder anyone to fund a legal drug habit. Legal drug habits are easier to treat. Some might not even have a drug habit if not for illegal drugs laced with addictive substances they didn’t even know were there.
Oxycodone is legal [albeit controlled]. There are plenty of pill doctors that will prescribe oxycodone to anyone that doesn't look like too big of a mess. A cousin of mine stole oxycodone from my grandmother when she couldn't afford the ever increasing costs of her spiraling out of control oxycodone habit. People have murdered and gone bankrupt acquiring oxycodone, and continue to do so. [ https://www.pharmacytimes.c…
I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem
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Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem
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Yes, it’s a myth that they are “instantly” addicting. I don’t deny the drug is powerful, but you have to want it. If it were true that it was instantly physically addictive, then literally every human being that has ever had any kind of surgery or been to the ER for trauma would be a rabid opioid zombie. But they aren’t.
They dont give heroin im ER.
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#483The fascinating thing about this stuff is that you can have outlier people. For instance, tobacco is supposed to be highly addictive. Well, I picked up smoking from a girlfriend in college and we used to smoke all the time. Like ten cigs a day for a year and a half. Real bad, right? Well, one day, I decided "Meh. I'll just stop" and I did. Not because of any reason. I just chose not to. Now cigarettes are way addicti…
Experts were expecting an unprecedented heroin epidemic from veterans returning from the Vietnam war as drug use among soldiers was rampant. Turned out these soldiers came back and were no longer addicted. Scientists are guessing the causal factor for the loss of addiction was a "change in environment." It is literally the same thing that happened to the European person who replied to your post. Your brain hard wires dependencies to certain drugs but when you change your environment it may trigger something in your brain to actually unconsciously eliminate these dependencies. This makes evolutionary sense.
No doubt about it, people think that the above description means that the addiction is some sort of conscious decision. It is not the case. Addition is real, but the tricks to get out of addiction may be simpler then most people think.
So the question to ask is, when you quit tobacco, were you in the process of moving? Were there big changes going on in your life that would change the environment around you?
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#484The fascinating thing about this stuff is that you can have outlier people. For instance, tobacco is supposed to be highly addictive. Well, I picked up smoking from a girlfriend in college and we used to smoke all the time. Like ten cigs a day for a year and a half. Real bad, right? Well, one day, I decided "Meh. I'll just stop" and I did. Not because of any reason. I just chose not to. Now cigarettes are way addicti…
My wife for example has struggled to quit smoking for at least 10 years. As in very hardcore struggle.
When I was young my father managed to quit from a 3 pack a day habit to nothing cold turkey. But it was obviously pretty tough on him during the process and took a couple of years to really break out of.
My brother has a pretty bad pot addiction, a relatively harmless drug with almost no known chemical mechanism for addiction. Yet he can't shake it and it's haunted him his entire life.
I'm a bit like you w/r to tobacco. I occasionally smoke cigars and have played around with cigarettes from time to time. Once I lose interest I just stop and it's over. No urge or desire or anything else.
On the other hand, I have a bad day at work and all I want to do is shove shit food in my mouth.
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You're an outlier. The vast majority of people who smoke opium or experience euphoria from taking medical grade heroin will obtain the urge to do it more.
As a physician: No, the 'vast majority' do not. I've supervised medical grade opioid administration to more than a few people, both acutely and chronically, and *folks without a pre-existing substance use problem* do not often develop one, especially if it's over the short term. The idea that "I give you an opioid and then BAM I want more!" is highly divergent from my clinical experience.
Use != Misuse, but use for pleasure is a direct precursor of misuse.
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The argument the author is making is that addiction is an outlier. Many many many people drink, snort cocaine, smoke cigarettes and in the author's case, use heroin, and never develop addiction. I can understand why this infuriates people who've seen or known people who've died from an addiction but it's important for people to understand that alcohol, drugs, gambling, facebook, the internet, shopping, and everything…
You had me until your last sentence. There are people who are born with huge lung capacity, they are able to swim faster and longer than anyone else. We would never believe that it's emotional pain that is keeping everyone else from swimming as well. And people are born colorblind, they don't lose that ability because of emotional pain. Physics and our individual body chemistry at birth plays a deep role in our uniqu…
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#487I can see addiction like unpaid debt. Just like everyone may need a bank loan (which is totally socially acceptable), sometime you may need a happiness/energy/relief/whatever loan. The thing is, just like a money loan, you should be ready to pay your debt after. The day you think you can run away without paying, it's where the trouble begin. This is true even with alcohol: Go to a party, drink a few glasses. One or t…
I disagree with this view. I think the metaphor captures some elements of the experience, but it doesn't capture enough. A craving feeling arises to have fun. The craving exists there because it feels nice. This also implies that you feel less nice than you'd like to feel. This craving doesn't happen that often, but often enough that you're curious about taking drugs. You try cocaine. Suddenly you feel energized and…
I'm not a drug addict either, but I can relate with some of it about my cigarette smoking habit (it's actually an addiction, I know).
As for the metaphor, "every weekend" looks already like an enormous amount of debt to me.
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This is dose-dependent. You're comparing alcohol abuse to heroine use . That's not a fair comparison. You should also examine the proportion of heroin "users" who become abusers. You should then do the same comparison for alcohol use. I'm willing to entertain the notion that the risks of heroin are overblown. I'm even willing to believe it. What seems entirely unsupported by evidence is the notion that alcohol and he…
Look at the data on those who have chronic pain: they are prescribed opiates at high dosages daily (equivalent to extreme abuse), and doctors think this is acceptable. Heroin is essentially just an opiate. They do not show effects as bad as life-long alcohol users, nor obviously abusers. A lot of socially acceptable alcohol use would be called abuse if society was fair about it.
That's an orthogonal concern. That being said, I don't understand your reasoning.
Firstly, this is opioid abuse. Granted, the responsibility for this abuse falls on the prescriber rather than the user, but it is nevertheless a pathological pattern of use.
Secondly, you've substituted "heroin" for "pharmaceutical-grade opiates" in your argument. The irony is that this supports my position more than yours because it demonstrates that the slope is particularly slippery, even with medical-grade opioids. This point bears repeating: the addictive and toxicological potential of opioid medicine is greater than alcohol. The trend is even less in your favor when we return to the topic at hand: heroin.
I share your concern about opioid-based medication, but this argues against your point.
Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem
#489The fascinating thing about this stuff is that you can have outlier people. For instance, tobacco is supposed to be highly addictive. Well, I picked up smoking from a girlfriend in college and we used to smoke all the time. Like ten cigs a day for a year and a half. Real bad, right? Well, one day, I decided "Meh. I'll just stop" and I did. Not because of any reason. I just chose not to. Now cigarettes are way addicti…
Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem
#490So many comments in this thread are misconstruing Hart's arguments. He's not being open about his drug use in order to encourage everyone else to start using opiates and amphetamines willy-nilly. We can't just keep applying the same Reagan-era drug prohibition policies and expect anything to change. People are never going to stop using these drugs, so we should take steps to make their use safer. Thanks to widespread…
It doesn't matter if that's why he's doing it - that's still the effect.