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I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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Post by mrtweetyhack »

Grustaf wrote: post #204
nimbius wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fully agree. Carl is a white collar professor. The worst thing that can happen if his drug indulgence becomes a problem is he knocks over the water cooler or loses his job. I work a blue collar job servicing heavy diesel engines. Casual hard drug users are aggravatingly cavalier to work alongside. They forget important things constantly. They show up late and lose things often. You'll spend all day repeating things t…

Well, how many people will see this headline and rush off to a back alley to buy a shot of heroin from some junkie?

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Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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Post by f430 »

This article is just sheer irresponsible. Heroin especially now is risky because so many dealers are cutting it with Fentanyl and the users won't even know the difference until its too late.

Our blind catering to individual freedoms is really unbecoming and I question why this author wanted to bring attention to himself and his own private struggles.

I thought the UBC professor who faked being indigenous and doxxed Asian Canadian students for being white supremacist and threatened another professor topped it.

Just what in the hell is going on with North American academia and educators? How did it fall from grace like this?

Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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Post by vntok »

ryanmarsh wrote: post #299
fbelzile wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not defending drug use at work, but if you're to be fired it should be for the performance related issues you mentioned caused by the drug, not because of the drug itself. Edit for more context: Depending on the drug, substances consumed outside of working hours would still show up in a drug test. Firing someone for something they do outside of work shouldn't be acceptable. If you can prove they consumed drugs that w…

I'd like to know the word that describes the sort of cognitive dissonance in your comment.

Denial?

Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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Post by vmchale »

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #62

This guy's whole viewpoint seems to be pinned on "it's not addiction if it's not negatively affecting the rest of your life" (yes, I know this is a major criteria for a lot of medical diagnosis, addiction included). The problem is that what it takes "negatively affect the rest of your life" depends a lot on what role you have in society. Short of pornography producer, fantasy fiction author, songwriter and other prof…

> This guy's whole viewpoint seems to be pinned on "it's not addiction if it's not negatively affecting the rest of your life" (yes, I know this is a major criteria for a lot of medical diagnosis, addiction included).

That's what distinguishes dependency from addiction.

I think he's glossing over the fact that some drugs can be addictive, which is a thing on its own, aside from promoting happiness.

Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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Post by Shared404 »

jboog wrote: post #257
rflrob wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm not saying our drug laws are just or can't be reformed but the fact that heroin is illegal prevents a LOT of people from using it. How many people will then use, aided by these pronouncements that "Heroin isn't actually that addictive!" and ruin their lives? Do you know a lot of people who have expressed to you that they would use heroin recreationally if only it were legal? My gut is that the number isn’t larg…

You genuinely believe that there is no large group of people curious about trying a drug that supposedly offers the most euphoric feeling imaginable "better than sex" as many have claimed? What if people tell them it's not addictive? And now it's not illegal?

Tobacco is legal, and also illegal to tell people it's not addictive, at least in any sort of marketing sense.

Also, my understanding of most drug legalization is that the intent is to legalize usage/possession, not distribution. This is done with the intent to make it easier/safer to gain treatment and decrease addiction.

Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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Post by xibalba »

TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #253
Grustaf wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, how many people will see this headline and rush off to a back alley to buy a shot of heroin from some junkie?

Several years ago, I read about the significant nootropic effects of nicotine and spent time on forums that downplayed the potential negative impacts. I ended up trying it and became addicted for years. Social contagion can have significant effects on social issues like this.

I've experimented with nicotine (in the form of gum) myself, but haven't really observed much in the way of benefits. Did you see benefits? What form(s) were you using? How did you end up quitting?

(I was turned onto this after listening to an interview with Dr. Peter Attia [haven't yet made up my mind on whether he is a huckster])

Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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Post by [deleted] »

snovv_crash wrote: post #297
fbelzile wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not defending drug use at work, but if you're to be fired it should be for the performance related issues you mentioned caused by the drug, not because of the drug itself. Edit for more context: Depending on the drug, substances consumed outside of working hours would still show up in a drug test. Firing someone for something they do outside of work shouldn't be acceptable. If you can prove they consumed drugs that w…

Proactive vs reactive? If you can tell someone will cause an accident, you don't wait until it happens.

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Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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Post by vntok »

ajkdhcb2 wrote: post #325
joemazerino wrote: post #117

This is legitimately dangerous reporting. Heroin is ranked in the top 3 of addictive chemicals and all this article reports about is this anecdotal nonsense. I've too many friends to Heroin to know the reality of the drug.

You just threw out your own anecdotal nonsense. Responsible drug users are invisible to society and to judgemental people like you. You have no data to discredit it.

Responsible drug users sounds like an oxymoron. Is there any data that shows those people even exist?

Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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Post by minitoar »

vorpalhex wrote: post #320
minitoar wrote: post #315

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can you tell they will definitely cause an accident?

The same reason you're not supposed to drive or operate heavy machinery on a wide variety of medications, including legal and over the counter ones.

Sure, but op is talking about someone who uses controlled substances outside of work. If they’re not under the influence of a substance at work, then it’s not the same situation you are talking about.

Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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Post by fnordsensei »

maybelsyrup wrote: post #310
joemazerino wrote: post #117

This is legitimately dangerous reporting. Heroin is ranked in the top 3 of addictive chemicals and all this article reports about is this anecdotal nonsense. I've too many friends to Heroin to know the reality of the drug.

Sorry, I call BS. First, ranked by whom? Besides internet listicles, I mean. Second, those rankings, valid or not, are always a mix of legal and illegal drugs, with legal ones like alcohol, nicotine, and benzodiazepines sitting above heroin, morphine, and opium. Not to mention caffeine, which we begin feeding to children at extremely young ages alongside the amphetamines we pump them full of if they have trouble payi…

I know that the EU and WHO at least rank drugs by harmfulness.

On the WHO lists, alcohol ranks below heroin and the like, but not far below, and certainly not as low as cannabis.

Harmfulness seems largely irrelevant for legislation.

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