> “My heroin use is as rational as my alcohol use”
What an incredibly dangerous idea to promote. Do not mess with opioids. You think you are in control, until you are not.
I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem
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#112> One of the major reasons people can’t overcome it is because we’re not very good at treating addiction in this country. I am often wondering about how addiction "feels". I don't consider myself being addicted to anything, and always wonder how an addiction actually manifests itself. Is it a pain? Is it comparable to being extremely hungry or thirsty? Slightly related: a few years ago, I overheard a conversation bet…
do you drink coffee or soft drinks? Try not to drink them for 2 weeks.
There's got to be more to this because even though I consume prolific amounts of caffeine I do not experience any pain on cessation. Yet, many of my coworkers do feel this pain.
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#113Man, I read this as someone who tried to use opioids and I just couldn't chip. It spiraled into full blown physical dependence. I guess i'm the type with an underlying psychiatric illness which drove my usage and denial. That there exists people like this person who can chip (controlled use of opiates) always intrigues me -- as this drug was the ultimate pathway to euphoria and thus I became the mouse hitting the but…
Opioids are insanely and ~~instantly~~ quickly addictive. I accidentally became addicted after knee surgery. When the pain subsided, I stopped taking them, and within a day I found myself curled up in a ball and wanting to rip my own skin off. It's really true when addicts describe it as "being uncomfortable in your own skin". The moment I realized I was experiencing withdrawal, I flushed the meds down the toilet and…
> Opioids are insanely and instantly addictive. I accidentally became addicted after knee surgery.
Is that true generally, or just for a subset of people who have some predisposition to addiction?
While it could just be Purdue Pharma propaganda, I vaguely recall hearing that the "instant addiction" was a myth. However, people like you have experiences like yours, so there must be some truth to the "instant addiction" idea.
Edit for downvoters: I think it totally makes sense for everyone treat opioids like a loaded gun, like another poster said, if some people are vulnerable to an instant addiction effect. I just want to clarify what the actual situation is (for me and all the other people who were told it was a myth).
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Opioids are insanely and ~~instantly~~ quickly addictive. I accidentally became addicted after knee surgery. When the pain subsided, I stopped taking them, and within a day I found myself curled up in a ball and wanting to rip my own skin off. It's really true when addicts describe it as "being uncomfortable in your own skin". The moment I realized I was experiencing withdrawal, I flushed the meds down the toilet and…
> Opioids are insanely and instantly addictive. This is the kind of FUD that TFA is specifically addressing. Namely, that this is not always a true statement. Of course, for many people, it is, which is why people make such sweeping (and incorrect) statements. Your warning is valid, your claimed facts are not.
So even if it's not true for everyone that's a practically useless observation because how are you going to find out it's not true for you without risking becoming instantly addicted?
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#115Whilst I'm sure there are many functional `users` of heroin, there are many more who think they are functional and yet they are not and just don't see it themselves. I've lived near many heroin `users` and I will say that the biggest issue is that if they can lie about their habits to themselves, then others are a given. Equally, whilst they may not see their usage of as a problem, they neglect to see the impact upon…
Hot take: anyone writing articles about how they’re sensibly using heroin is an addict in denial
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#116> Hart strives to “present a more realistic image of the typical drug user: a responsible professional who happens to use drugs in his pursuit of happiness.” I think this is likely wrong. I guess it partly depends on the definition of a "drug user" (like, does it include alcohol drinkers) but I would be very surprised if most heroin users are responsible professionals - how can you do anything when you're high on her…
> how can you do anything when you're high on heroin? It is a straw-man to assume that drug users are high during work. There are plenty of hours in the day. Erowid puts the duration of a heroin high at 2-4 hours. https://erowid.org/chemicals/heroin/heroin_basics.shtml
8 hours for sleeping
8 hours for getting your $80 for the day to get high
4 hours to get high
4 hours for...I don't know, working on a novel or something
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#117This is legitimately dangerous reporting. Heroin is ranked in the top 3 of addictive chemicals and all this article reports about is this anecdotal nonsense. I've too many friends to Heroin to know the reality of the drug.
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#118> Hart strives to “present a more realistic image of the typical drug user: a responsible professional who happens to use drugs in his pursuit of happiness.” I think this is likely wrong. I guess it partly depends on the definition of a "drug user" (like, does it include alcohol drinkers) but I would be very surprised if most heroin users are responsible professionals - how can you do anything when you're high on her…
I used drugs recreationally until I had children. During this time I knew many colleagues that used drugs every week. Some used amphetamines and mdma at parties. Some used morphine substitutes day time during the weekends, and on a few occasions some were high during work hours (the last few hours on friday). They were very productive. Just because you use a hard drug does not mean that you have to take a large dose.…
Bio parents of my adopted child used them recreationally. They used them all through kids childhood. Really screwed em up.
Every single person in group homes and foster system had same sort of tale.
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#119> Hart strives to “present a more realistic image of the typical drug user: a responsible professional who happens to use drugs in his pursuit of happiness.” I think this is likely wrong. I guess it partly depends on the definition of a "drug user" (like, does it include alcohol drinkers) but I would be very surprised if most heroin users are responsible professionals - how can you do anything when you're high on her…
From my reading, alcohol drinkers are absolutely included in his definition of a "drug user" and the exact same objection would apply - how can you do anything when you're drunk on alcohol?
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#120>When you’re at a wedding reception, alcohol serves as a social lubricant. People are more gregarious. They talk, they interact. The same is true with cocaine at parties, heroin among friends, or opium among friends, NDMA among lovers. It enhances empathy, openness, and forgiveness, all of these pro-social attributes. Please, don't take this horrible advice. Drugs are harmful and can do fatal damage to you and those…
The section you quoted didn't give any advice.